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Old Nov 13, 2007, 06:53 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Should salvia be illegal?

if other hallucinogenic drugs are illegal such as shrooms and lsd then i don't understand why salvia is legal, knowing it trips you out more than those other drugs. Your views?
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 07:07 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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There's definitely an inconsistency, but the answer is not to ban salvia; it's to legalise other hallucinogens. From the penalties imposed on hallucinogen possesion, one would think they were on a par with heroin and crystal meth, but if you look at the hard facts, you see that they're pretty much harmless. Take psilocybin mushrooms for instance:

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Drug effect: Effects which include euphoria and hallucinations begin within 20 – 40 minutes and usually last between four and eight hours. Sleep often follows use.

Dependency: No.

Withdrawal: No withdrawal symptoms have been noted.

Long-term use: Psilocybin can cause impaired cognitive functioning and poor performance in attention tests. However, no adverse long – term effects have been reported.

Overdose risk: Liberty Caps are not very toxic and so the overdose risk is low.
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Legal status: Liberty Caps are classified as Class A controlled drug.

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For possession: Seven years and/or unlimited fine
For dealing: Life and/or unlimited fine.
So life imprisonment for supplying a harmless substance to a willing consumer. Hmmm.

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Old Nov 13, 2007, 07:25 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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There's definitely an inconsistency, but the answer is not to ban salvia; it's to legalise other hallucinogens. From the penalties imposed on hallucinogen possesion, one would think they were on a par with heroin and crystal meth, but if you look at the hard facts, you see that they're pretty much harmless. Take psilocybin mushrooms for instance:

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So life imprisonment for supplying a harmless substance to a willing consumer. Hmmm.

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it depends where you live because in Canada the consequences aren't as bad. They will usually just take it away from you.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 11:55 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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no, all hallucinogenic drugs should be legalized.

For me it's a different story about crack drugs like heroin, coke, etc. I hate the prohibition but once it's legalized it will be enterprised and if everything else is a good example, corporate america will be very adapt at shoving those drugs down everybodys throats for a buck.

not that that's not already going on to an extent.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 07:38 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I think Native Americans use salvia, and have some influence on legislation. Peyote, and a few other naturally occuring hallucinogenic drugs ecape legislation for the same reason. ( No proof, but I do recall hearing about this on PBS many moons ago. )
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