Public Nudity

[Space Dude]

Useless laws weaken the necessary laws. –. Montesquieu
This quote encapsulates my position on this issue.However I think such a decriminalization should only be done in a community where a majority of the inhabitants agree.Apparently,I hear there exists long stretches of nudist beaches in the south of France where the neighboring residential areas are clothing optional.

Space Dude

[Space Dude]

http://domai.com/news/2003/04april-04/index.html
This is a great article in defense of nudity.

Space Dude

[Seeker_Of_Sins]

I am pretty sure that I would not like to sit on a cafe seat recently vacated by an unwashed homeless nudist or perhaps a person with a bowel problem and therefore I have voted for 'under some conditions'

[Space Dude]

Oh hey I failed to notice that the topic of nudity in public has basically already been introduced and exhausted.I should have read around more.

Space Dude

[ComradeRed]

If you wanna run around naked in public, please, be my guest.

[Phil Free]

Originally posted by Seeker_Of_Sins, I am pretty sure that I would not like to sit on a cafe seat recently vacated by an unwashed homeless nudist or perhaps a person with a bowel problem and therefore I have voted for 'under some conditions'

Our society is overly obsessed with cleanliness, IMO. There have been studies done showing that we've only weakened our biological defenses against disease by constantly bathing, washing hands, wasting water.

And could a fear of being labelled as part of the "filthy underclass" be buttressing this insanity? I mean, consider that you went out of your way to say "unwashed HOMELESS nudist"... why not unwashed nudist? Hmmmmmm...

I think we should be more afraid of the people that bombard us with the images of perfection (which, I'll remind you, come partly from the use of the airbrush!) rather than the classes suffering beneath their heels. And I think we should really reconsider the belief that we will only be safer from disease if we keep mixing toxins with lots of water and washing it down the bathtub drain. We need to keep our priorities straight... if we don't have any more clean water, we're gonna be more worried about dehydrating or poisoning ourselves than whether or not we have got all the "germs" off our pretty hands.

And last, but not least, I think we should let individual communities decide whether or not they want to run around nekked. If you're afraid they're gonna rub their butt germs on "your" seat, then find another community. I don't think laws should play any role in a free society.

I voted yes.

[samsara15]

How would you like to sit in a cafe with a whole of ugly old fat people. Like me. Yuck. Should it be illegal? No. If they can stand Wisconsin winters, more power to them.

[waterfalllife]

Im not gonna run out on the street in the nude, but if someone wants to, by all means, go ahead.

[Phil Free]

Originally posted by samsara15, How would you like to sit in a cafe with a whole of ugly old fat people. Like me. Yuck. Should it be illegal? No. If they can stand Wisconsin winters, more power to them.

Would it be better if they were young, beautiful, thin, nude people?

I'm suprisingly disgusted that people can be so horribly judgemental. Who's being ugly?

[lessthan]

it doesnt matter its not going to affect us that much tthat if they arent clean its not like we more then likely have some sort of medicine tthat can cure it. I dont see why nudity is such a big issue its like the people that are fighting against it dont have private parts at all like they are jsut one live mannquin. we need to use more of our power in informing our political people and gettign them to loosen these rediculous laws.

[Phil Free]

Originally posted by lessthan, it doesnt matter its not going to affect us that much tthat if they arent clean its not like we more then likely have some sort of medicine tthat can cure it. I dont see why nudity is such a big issue its like the people that are fighting against it dont have private parts at all like they are jsut one live mannquin. we need to use more of our power in informing our political people and gettign them to loosen these rediculous laws.

Exactly, cuz.

[bugsbunny04]

"Under some conditions"

Indeed.

[Cathy]

Originally posted by Phil Free,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phil Free,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Seeker_Of_Sins, I am pretty sure that I would not like to sit on a cafe seat recently vacated by an unwashed homeless nudist or perhaps a person with a bowel problem and therefore I have voted for 'under some conditions'

Our society is overly obsessed with cleanliness, IMO. There have been studies done showing that we've only weakened our biological defenses against disease by constantly bathing, washing hands, wasting water.[/b][/quote]
I had to vote "no" regardless.

Perhaps society has gone overboard with cleanliness but there are reasons why we have hygiene laws regarding food service and hospital practices. I'm no science expert but here's my view.

Taking two fairly extreme scenarios, either we have
1. (allegedly) lowered biological defences and a cleaner environment generally with a negligible risk of some pervasive germ infecting/killing the population, or
2. we have people with stronger immunity to germs but possibly suffer more germ-induced ailments that may otherwise be avoided.

In my opinion regardless whether scenario 1 or 2 applies, there will always be some small risk of some nasty germ that infects/kills a subset of the population. Plus, with two you could have a lot of slightly sick people around. Couldn't be good for the economy.

So I vote we stay clean. And when it comes down to it I personally would not want to sit on a seat vacated by some unknown nude person, if I were nude also.

[Samildanach]

The whole problem is we are all judging from a standpoint where wearing clothes is normal. I think that its the kind of thing that needs to be phased in and there is nothing to say there can't be bars or restaurants where clothes are required, after all most places can institute some kind of dress code. Also you have to understand that naked does not mean dirty by any means. If someone showers in the morning walks around all day naked they are probably at the end of the day going to be less dirty than someone with clothes on. Less sweating because they won't overheat as much, antiperpirents can be applied directly when and wehere you like at the time.

i don't think it should be actually *punishable* to be naked in public. if someone wants to go around naked and deal with the social repercussions then go for it.

nothing could be more natural than myself and a girl named laura *totally*naked* in a certain forest grove i know of.

[argonak]

problem with public nudity?

no quality control.

[tuula]

sometimes! it's fun to be naked and i always am at home (sorry friends who sit on my couch) but traffic accidents may be a problem. as well as food contamination at the local store.
there is a thin line between flash and nudist!
plus if i had kids i don't think i'd want some old nude man comming up to ask about their hobbys!

[lessthan]

l0l tulla i think thats a diff. situation. i mean there shoudl not be any laws against be naked thats one of the things makes this country very uptight. the lack of respect for people choose to be worry free. because if they have no real problem with bein naked i see no problem with it.

[Phil Free]

Originally posted by Cathy, Taking two fairly extreme scenarios, either we have 1. (allegedly) lowered biological defences and a cleaner environment generally with a negligible risk of some pervasive germ infecting/killing the population, or 2. we have people with stronger immunity to germs but possibly suffer more germ-induced ailments that may otherwise be avoided.

Actually, there are quite a few experts who are saying that we are reaching a state where we are actually increasing the threat of certain diseases as we become more and more clean.

http://www.partnershipforlearning.org/arti...?ArticleID=1546
http://www.irishhealth.com/?level=4&id=2376
http://www.edinburghfestivals.co.uk/...m?id=369282004
http://www.asthma.org.uk/about/an082.php
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology...web3/bond.html
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol7no2/larson.htm

[Anarchist]

Originally posted by Phil Free,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Phil Free,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Seeker_Of_Sins, I am pretty sure that I would not like to sit on a cafe seat recently vacated by an unwashed homeless nudist or perhaps a person with a bowel problem and therefore I have voted for 'under some conditions'

Our society is overly obsessed with cleanliness, IMO. There have been studies done showing that we've only weakened our biological defenses against disease by constantly bathing, washing hands, wasting water.
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I don't know about you, but I'm not too keen on the idea of planting my bare ass on a bar stool that's been smeared with someone's leavings.