Junk food trade soars at Manitoba high school:

[Praxius]

CTV.ca | Junk food trade soars at Manitoba high school

Smuggled snacks have become a growing problem at Kelvin High School in Winnipeg after a ban on selling junk food took effect. The Winnipeg School Division's nutrition policy means neither the cafeteria, nor the vending machines have any treats available to fulfill a sugar fix. But some students have found a way to satisfy the cravings, and make a few bucks in the process. Julian Schioler is a Grade 12 student at Kelvin High School, and he and his friend Quinnton Daerden decided to go into business. "I just sort of one day went out to Pharma Plus and bought two 12s of Coke and Sprite and just brought them back to school and started selling them, and then the next day, we were in business," Schioler told CTV Winnipeg. Business is brisk, and the entrepreneurs often sell out. "It's pretty good, we're making a lot of money," Daerden adds. There is a fast food restaurant and convenience store in walking distance, but it takes too long to get there, according to one Kelvin student, Eric Parent. "It's not worth the walk. If you're going to be here for lunch, it would take half an hour to go there and back, so it's not really worth it." More than 70 people have joined a Facebook site called "Bring Back Sugar to Kelvin High School." But school trustee John Orlikow told The Canadian Press that it's not a ban: "People can still bring their own. But we as a school division are not going to provide it." The Winnipeg School Division told CTV Winnipeg the nutritional policies are based on provincial guidelines, and students who have an issue with them should take them up with the school principal.

Uh-oh.... and we thought drug dealers were bad.... now we got kids dealing snacks :eek:

At first I thought this was about them getting in trouble for it, but as they explained in the article, there isn't a law or rule about snacks on the school grounds, just that the school won't provide them.

This just goes to show you that there's still a few smart ones out there.

[another day]

HAH!! what a lovely parallel to the war on drugs. Idiot authorities, when will they ever learn how the world works? Outlaw something and you create a black market, along with all the crime that goes along with it.

[Praxius]

Quote by: another day HAH!! what a lovely parallel to the war on drugs. Idiot authorities, when will they ever learn how the world works? Outlaw something and you create a black market, along with all the crime that goes along with it.

In a manner of a legal act's speaking... yes, lol.

[Osborn F Enready]

ROFLMAO....

Once again, the prohibition dunderheads are slapped with reality, but yet, I am sure will still try to find ways to deny it, or blame something else.

[Praxius]

And you wanna know the funny part?

You know it's Canada when you got the news reporting the worse thing ever.... junk food smuggling

IT'S CRAZY UP HERE!!!

Watch out or the kids might do a drive by water shooting if you cross their turf.

[ruksak]

Nice find, Praxius. You made me laugh with that one.

I remember a kid from my middle school that would bring a bunch of candy to school in a duffel bag and sell it. When the "authorities" found out, they suspended him for a week.
In a cruel twist of fate the kid, Jason Jones, almost died in music class when he choked on a piece of lifesavers candy.

It should be understood that the school is only trying to do the right thing by making this sort of sales against the rules. However what happens is they feel the need to make the penalties so harsh, it causes far more damage than the "crime" itself.

[Praxius]

hey, I chocked on a lifesaver.... it's not that uncommon ....

Funny thing is the irony in the name..... perhaps it's the hole they're talking about.

[Osborn F Enready]

Its almost as sad as this fine example:

If Someone Hands You a Lemon, Get a Permit by Paul Hein

You probably don’t know the name Avigayil Wardein, but you might have heard of the six-year-old girl in Naples, Florida, who was busted for operating a lemonade stand without a permit. Avigayil is that girl. She sells lemonade for 50 cents per plastic cup, and has a jar for tips, to boot. Some disgruntled neighbor reported Avigayil to the authorities for failure to have a permit. City Mayor Bonnie McKenzie was surprised. She hadn’t been aware a permit was required for a lemonade stand. "I’ve been a customer of hers more than once," the mayor said. "That means I’ve aided and abetted. You know what: I’m not one bit sorry. It’s good lemonade." Does that mean that bad lemonade requires a permit, but not good? The mayor may be trying for a humorous note, but the crack about aiding and abetting is true enough, and not funny. Aren’t the laws supposed to be taken seriously, even by kids? There’s nothing new about crackdowns on lemonade stands. I’ve seen reports of it periodically over the years. From time to time a dangerous tribe of toddler tort-feasors tangles with the law – and loses, like Avigayil. Oh, to be sure, the kid is back in business, hawking her brew to thirsty customers at Sixth Street and 11th Avenue. But she didn’t win. As is usual in cases of this sort, the issue of why a person needs a license, or permit, or permission of some officious strangers to do business, is never raised. Avigayil’s stand is in operation again because the Naples city fathers, aware of the widespread bad-press they’d received, and of their opponent’s photogenic smile, albeit minus two front teeth, caved. After a few days shutdown, Avigayil was allowed to re-open by the authorities. She’s selling lemonade again, but only after the city graciously gave its permission. And, in any event, a number of outraged citizens offered to pay the $35 permit fee for her, so one way or another, she’d still be in the lemonade business, but only with the city’s permission, whether the fee was paid or not. Is this age discrimination? Is it selective enforcement of the law? Sure, of course, but so what? No doubt the city fathers hope that the matter will fade away and be forgotten. The public’s short memory is one of those things that makes government possible.

(click link to continue reading...)
If Someone Hands You a Lemon, Get a Permit by Paul Hein

[another day]

HAHAHA. What kind of absolute and utterely horribly and pathetic wretched person would report their 6 year old neighbor for operating a lemonade stand without a license??

[Osborn F Enready]

another day said: HAHAHA. What kind of absolute and utterely horribly and pathetic wretched person would report their 6 year old neighbor for operating a lemonade stand without a license??

This kind of person.

People who attempt to use government and police as a cudgel to beat citizens over the head with, for some subjectively perceived "disrespect".

Lady calls 911 over wrong Burger King order - FileCabi.net

[Milton Bradley]

Oh my, things are truly spinning out of control.


Well, these were the logical consequences they were warned of earlier when we attempted to explain where these doctrines lead.

[BugsBunny07]

Quote by: another day HAH!! what a lovely parallel to the war on drugs. Idiot authorities, when will they ever learn how the world works? Outlaw something and you create a black market, along with all the crime that goes along with it.

They should record a rap song about selling coke in school.

+1

[Chancellor]

Quote by: ruksak It should be understood that the school is only trying to do the right thing by making this sort of sales against the rules. However what happens is they feel the need to make the penalties so harsh, it causes far more damage than the "crime" itself.

No, it should be understood that the school is usurping the role and authority of the parents. It is never a government's place to dictate what people can or cannot ingest. While school is not the time or place to be engaging in commerce (because kids are supposed to be learning the government's propaganda), it seems to be the most natural thing for commerce to occur. Thus, when government tries to ban certain substances an underground marketplace arises (the black market).

[Chancellor]

Quote by: BugsBunny07 They should record a rap song about selling coke in school. +1

Selling Coca Cola, that is. Not selling cocaine. (Though what's interesting about this is that Coca Cola used to contain cocaine).

[Milton Bradley]

Here another good laugh...

STATE OF MICHIGAN Reply to: GRAND RAPIDS DISTRICT OFFICE STATE OFFICE BUILDING 6TH FLOOR 350 OTTAWA NW GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341 JOHN ENGLER, Governor DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY HOLLISTER BUILDING, PO BOX 30473, LANSING MI 48909-7973 INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mi RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director December 17, 1997 CERTIFIED Mr. Ryan DeVries 2088 Dagget Pierson, MI 49339 Dear Mr. DeVries: SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, Sec. 20, Montcalm County It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated. The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 1998. Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions. Sincerely, David L. Price District Representative Land and Water Management Division

The response...

Dear Mr. Price: Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response. First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan - I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize, their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated. My first concern is - aren't the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation - so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names. If you want the dam stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition - contact the dam beavers - but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable to read English) - be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights first. As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers - be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State - I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy, or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice! In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green, and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now. Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then. In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem: bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office. Sincerely, Stephen L. Tvedten

[Osborn F Enready]

ROFLMAO.....

Dam Beavers, Dam!