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Old Aug 7, 2007, 09:48 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Fear and Loathing at DailyKos

DailyKos is fast showing that it is indeed very illiberal when it comes to a great American freedom, freedom of speech.

I posted a diary substantially identical to this thread (link) (link to DailyKos version) on the installation of Muslim footbaths at University of Michigan, and a few other diaries, including my Primer on Muslim Anger Towards West (link). (Link to Volconvo version). I was banned after both of them were posted. Oops, I forgot this one on Al Gore's daughter and endangered fish (link). In the latter, here are some of the comments:
  1. ... one of them praising the traitor Thomas "Amnesty, Abortion and Acid" Eagleton. Yeah, JBG is pure troll;
  2. It's just a weak hit piece, by Organic America; and even though it was shown (further down the threads) to be factually wrong - the concept of trashing Gore and Suzuki - if they do from time to time not manage to get every element of their life in perfect environmental order - is a shallow and juvenile attack;
  3. Well now we know who JBG is... by - "Everybody doesn't like something But nobody doesn't like Sarah Lee." JBG clearly doesn't like Sarah Lee.... ergo....
It seems they are too thin-skinned over there for real debate. Or maybe my IQ is so low and they're operating so many levels above me that they don't need to.
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Old Aug 9, 2007, 01:09 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Old Aug 9, 2007, 02:06 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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What is, debate dailykos style?
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Old Aug 9, 2007, 04:47 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Or maybe my IQ is so low and they're operating so many levels above me that they don't need to.
I´m not being rude, but some of your posts do come over as being very islamaphobic,
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Old Aug 9, 2007, 06:43 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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You leave an uneducated, bigoted, woefully uninformed post, compare Muslims to homosexuals, and expect debate.

I vote for low IQ.

And my question still stands. How much does the Christmas holiday cost the college every year?


78% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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Old Aug 10, 2007, 01:16 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I´m not being rude, but some of your posts do come over as being very islamaphobic,
Am I scared of people who attack other people at random, merely to cause death?

An excerpt, in the New York Times (link):

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A suicide bomber wrapped in explosives detonated himself next to a gasoline tanker south of Baghdad on Saturday night, creating a devastating fireball that killed at least 59 and wounded 86 , an Iraqi police official said.
From my memory of the event, a childrens' religious program was letting out at the time of the attack.

One may ask how an "activist" can know if he's nailing the people he wants to when he "activates himself" next to a gasoline truck. Maybe he didn't know, but hey, some opportunities, such as "death by the dozens" are too good to pass up.
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 05:08 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Am I scared of people who attack other people at random, merely to cause death?

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From my memory of the event, a childrens' religious program was letting out at the time of the attack.

One may ask how an "activist" can know if he's nailing the people he wants to when he "activates himself" next to a gasoline truck. Maybe he didn't know, but hey, some opportunities, such as "death by the dozens" are too good to pass up.
That's in Iraq and you live in America, really what danger are you afraid of?
in your line of work i´d be more worried about clients going postal:eek:
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U.S.-led raid kills civilians north of Bagdad - Children of Abraham: Death in the Desert
as to your OP. My Left Wing:: Markos Moulitsas Admits Working for the CIA

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Old Aug 10, 2007, 04:44 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Am I scared of people who attack other people at random, merely to cause death?
You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

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Old Aug 10, 2007, 07:16 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

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How many Jews do you see followiong that dictum? How many Muslims do you see following similar instructions?
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Old Aug 10, 2007, 07:29 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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How many Jews do you see followiong that dictum? How many Muslims do you see following similar instructions?
Not many.


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Old Aug 11, 2007, 02:35 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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How many Jews do you see fallowing that dictum?
can i include Palestine ?:)
More muslims have been killed by Israelis than israelis killed by muslims

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Old Aug 30, 2007, 03:39 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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How many Jews do you see followiong that dictum? How many Muslims do you see following similar instructions?
Is the question: How many people of the Islam faith do I see following the chapter of the Old Testament Judeo-Christian book Deuteronomy? Really?

comparing apples to oranges? Or, do you admit that it is the same "God"?


interesting.


But yeah- my answer is- People kill people. not books.


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can i include Palestine ?:)
More muslims have been killed by Israelis than israelis killed by muslims
Maybe, but christians go there and as far as I know, aren't massacred, so they can't be very faithful to those quotes.


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Old Aug 30, 2007, 09:04 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Is the question: How many people of the Islam faith do I see following the chapter of the Old Testament Judeo-Christian book Deuteronomy? Really?

comparing apples to oranges? Or, do you admit that it is the same "God"?


interesting.


But yeah- my answer is- People kill people. not books.
One of the differences is that the Prophets and the Talmud are interpreting and to some extent superceding documents. The Jews seem to have less trouble with amendment, whether formal or informal, of the books than Muslims do.
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Old Sep 5, 2007, 02:20 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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can i include Palestine ?:)
More muslims have been killed by Israelis than israelis killed by muslims
That is self-defense! Who brought the world the 10 commandments? Thou shall not kill! Mose a Jew. Jews don't follow the Bible they follow the torah.

This should be aimed at Christians. Besides Jews believe they are the chose people. They don't believe in death to all infidels or even forcing people to believe what they believe. In fact they make hard to convert and never have recruited or forced conversion at any point in history.
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Old Nov 3, 2007, 09:57 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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That is self-defense! Who brought the world the 10 commandments? Thou shall not kill! Mose a Jew. Jews don't follow the Bible they follow the torah.

This should be aimed at Christians. Besides Jews believe they are the chose people. They don't believe in death to all infidels or even forcing people to believe what they believe. In fact they make hard to convert and never have recruited or forced conversion at any point in history.
Great points. Jose didn't get it.
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That is self-defense! Who brought the world the 10 commandments? Thou shall not kill! Mose a Jew. Jews don't follow the Bible they follow the torah.

This should be aimed at Christians. Besides Jews believe they are the chose people. They don't believe in death to all infidels or even forcing people to believe what they believe. In fact they make hard to convert and never have recruited or forced conversion at any point in history.
Hold it, hold it, hold it. Do you know what the Torah is? It's the first five books of the Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. So how that equates to a necessity to "aim at Christians", I'm not entirely sure.



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