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Old Aug 4, 2007, 01:39 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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I wonder is life a joke? Does anyone have to be funny to be erudite, perceptive, knowledgeable or otherwise successful?
Sounds like it from the childish prattle I've been reading... sdbest?

I was recently ranting about the idiocy displayed in the latest (so called) debate on Utube. Are we descending into the uninformed juvenile mental abyss where every issue has to be presented as funny or entertaining to catch the interest of the voters? I hope not or the nation is doomed to laugh itself to death! I hope that humor is not important to our nations business ? It's pretty hard to laugh when a bridge collapses or a Muslim decapitates a journalist.

Mr Vicchio speaks with 'straight tongue'. Unfortunately IMNSHO he speaks to an uninformed, liberally subjective bunch of gullible believers who have been lulled into near insanity. Lulled by a bunch of propagandistic politicians and a sensation seeking press. The 'catch phrases' which are legion in the media, (dare I say among leftists) spread the insanity. How often have we seen/read the ,"Bush lied people died'",type comments. Eureeka! Bush didn't lie after all. But does it matter?

It is a given in the advertising business that repetition sells. If we repeat the catch phrases or clever slogans often enough even mature people begin to believe them. Careful folks, remember newspapers are written on the 11 year old level so most reader can understand the story line? Are you too readers?


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Old Aug 4, 2007, 02:25 pm   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Ben Stein is easily the most boring comedian I've ever witnessed. Watch an episode of Steal Ben Stein's Money, I think this'll illustrate my point pretty well.

I completely disagree with the premise of this thread, Fox News beats the hell out of Comedy Central if you're looking for something to laugh about. As far as conservative comedians, Bill O'Reily is hilarious.


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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:31 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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... there is no such thing as human induced global warming ...
OK, people, we finally -- after years of intensive research and scientific deliberation -- have a definitive, authoritatvie climatological conclusion on this much-debated, fantastically complex subject.

Good old Mr Bean -- I mean Vicchio.


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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:35 pm   #44 (permalink) (top)
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Actually, about six months ago they had a thing on Swiss TV about who was funnier in the Swiss federal parliament -- the rightwingers or the leftwingers.

As a leftist myself, I have to concede that on the whole the rightwingers in Bern do 'outwit' the leftwingers, many of whom tend to be earnest to a fault.

Shucks, if you can't have a bit of fun, what's the point?


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Old Aug 4, 2007, 03:37 pm   #45 (permalink) (top)
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--- Wow, and inadvertent double post, not the previous one but the one above. Go figure. ---


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Old Aug 6, 2007, 06:22 pm   #46 (permalink) (top)
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In another post, I wondered--thanks to a point made by John Stuart Mill--why stupid people tend to be Conservatives. That topic was locked by the moderator. I'm not sure if that goes in the win or loss column. Ah well!

The question now is why can't Conservatives be funny? This important social observation has been raised by Ellis Weiner over at The Huffington Post.

It's one thing being stupid, but of lack humor? That's intolerable.

I have managed to find a Conservative joke, told by John McCain no less,

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno. [Source]

See, Conservatives can't be funny.

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Old Aug 7, 2007, 01:41 pm   #47 (permalink) (top)
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Well, I'll just point to market successes and failures to counter you.

Rush, Sean and Glenn, successful with huge audiences.

Air America, complete, and utter failure.

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That means they are successful at selling products, not that they are successful at illuminating issues. And if your audience does what they are told, rather than thinking for themselves, they will buy more of the products you hawk. So, what have you proven?
Wth? No, that's not what it means at all.

They get money and sucess from ads BECAUSE they are successful with their audiences.
You're completely reversing cause and effect. What kind of audience listens to a talk show radio host because he sells products well?

EDIT: My mistake, thought by "product" you meant the products of advertisements, not the radio show itself.
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Old Aug 7, 2007, 02:10 pm   #48 (permalink) (top)
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Fangrim speaks with facts and logic.
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You're completely reversing cause and effect. What kind of audience listens to a talk show radio host because he sells products well?
Is Fangrim funny? Or is he inserting logic into the discussion?
Which do we find more amusing, truthful statements or fabricated idiocy?
Jokes may work on the stage and in the media but beware of humor in international relations.

Whom would you prefer for president, a joking liar who makes you laugh, or a serious logical person who gives you the unembellished truth?

Life is not all a joking matter. Agreed a little levity helps but it doesn't solve national and international problems and disputes. Who wants to go over and joke with 'Ahwannajihad', Osama: and Hugo Chavez?


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Old Aug 12, 2007, 10:49 pm   #49 (permalink) (top)
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Dennis Miller sucks.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 08:46 am   #50 (permalink) (top)
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He's crazy, but I do enjoy some of his comedy. Conservaticves, can too be funny, they spend most of their time making fun of liberals, it's just that most conservative politicians would die if they showed emotion and showbusiness has always been liberal except for, like john wayne.


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Old Aug 13, 2007, 11:08 am   #51 (permalink) (top)
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He's crazy, but I do enjoy some of his comedy. Conservaticves, can too be funny, they spend most of their time making fun of liberals, it's just that most conservative politicians would die if they showed emotion and showbusiness has always been liberal except for, like john wayne.
Being stupid isn't necessarily the same as being funny.

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Old Aug 13, 2007, 11:12 am   #52 (permalink) (top)
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Not always, as exeplified by Liberal comedians who think making the same tired jokes about Bush counts for Comedy. John Stewart at least is funny when he does it, and usually accurate.


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Old Aug 16, 2007, 11:57 am   #53 (permalink) (top)
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On a related subject, Fox's version of the daily show is apparently struggling:
Think Progress » Fox’s Right-Wing Alternative To Daily Show Fails


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Old Aug 16, 2007, 04:42 pm   #54 (permalink) (top)
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Colbert makes fun of everyone, I' don't need another equalizer.


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Old Aug 16, 2007, 07:37 pm   #55 (permalink) (top)
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Rush is funny, so there... I've made one example... and since I don't pay too much attention, I'm not sure about the others that Mr. Vicchio mentioned, but I'm a conservative, and plenty of people find me funny. Plus, I can acknowledge humor! For example, I find Ellis Weiner's name amusing.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 11:44 am   #56 (permalink) (top)
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The real question is, why can't Liberals do talk radio, now THAT's a debatable question, your question is just too easy to slam.
Because liberal audiences are more literate and more apt to read for information?

Because liberal audiences are less in need of hearing people reinforce their beliefs on a daily basis?

Because liberal audiences would rather hear some variety in their entertainment?

Because conservative audiences are more entertained by hearing people who disagree with them berated and slammed?

Because conservative audiences are more apt to swallow blatant propaganda as fact?

Because conservative audiences need reassurances that patriotism is loyalty to conservative ideals as opposed to country?

Because conservatives are the more apt to forgive picking at the sores that keep the US divided as long as it promotes the conservative agenda?

Just a few ideas off the top of my head.


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Old Aug 17, 2007, 12:10 pm   #57 (permalink) (top)
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Because conservative audiences are more entertained by hearing people who disagree with them berated and slammed?
Because Liberal comedians never berate or slam bush and conservatives, nooooo.


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Old Aug 17, 2007, 12:36 pm   #58 (permalink) (top)
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It cracks me up; these kind of people wouldn't believe Clinton if he told them the sky was blue
I would laugh in Clinton's face if he told me the sky was blue. The sky isn't really blue, it only appears that way (the substances that make up our atmosphere have no color).

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 01:10 pm   #59 (permalink) (top)
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I would laugh in Clinton's face if he told me the sky was blue. The sky isn't really blue, it only appears that way (the substances that make up our atmosphere have no color).
On the other hand if Ann Coulter told you the sky was blue I am sure you would recognize that it appears blue to our eyes and therefore would see it as a reasonable statement.

Welcome to those who don't care what is said but are very discerning about who says it.


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Old Aug 17, 2007, 01:39 pm   #60 (permalink) (top)
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Nevermind


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