What do the Islamic Courts have to do with a free market?!?Quote by: MachineCode0110
Somalia is not a libertarian paradise....nor was it prior to US-sponsored intervention.
What do the Islamic Courts have to do with a free market?!?
Somalia is not a libertarian paradise....nor was it prior to US-sponsored intervention.
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
-George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.
It's up to the owner to enforce whatever rules they want.
It's not up to the market.
If people don't like heroine in their cookies or no ingredient lists, they won't buy them.No putting heroine in Keebler Cookies and refusing to list ingredients"
Nothing.
The market in Somalia was free from any regulation.
Well, you are welcome to your opinion on the matter. I doubt you could get 1% of the population to agree that your ideas are viable. But you keep plugging along there. Most people don't want to have to eat the cookies to determine if they are drug laced and most people realize that the Chesapeake Bay is not really anyone's private property, so if anything is going to "enforced" it will be by government regulation. But, it seems to me if those are not concepts you can be down with, then it isn't much use for me to attempt to discuss this with you.
All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard -
Tell me, could that be you?
John Kay
And this made Somalia 'fine' how? I'm curious.
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
-George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.
No, I would say that all people don't want to have to eat them to determine that.
And, of course, the government isn't required to determine that without eating them.
Right now it's not.most people realize that the Chesapeake Bay is not really anyone's private property
It certainly could be, though.
Somalia didn't "spiral out of control so quickly that it wouldn't have time to make the poor rich" simply from lack of regulation on its market.
Are you suggesting that we all purchase equipment capable of tox-screens for our personal food supply so that we can make informed choices of what food to purchase, not to mention having equipment to screen for biological agents that might be dangerous? Or do we all just have to grow our own to be safe? But then, what about the fertilizer? Have our own cows to make that, too? But, again, this exercise is silly. Unless you post a detailed explaination of how these issues can be practically handled under your system, I'm not going to respond any more.
All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard -
Tell me, could that be you?
John Kay
And there lies the problem, many people don't follow the rules if they believe that they can profit by bending or breaking them. It is my belief that if government intervention in buisness were to come to an end price fixing and monopolies would become common place. maybe I am wrong, but until we have a state whose government ceases interventionist policy I guess we will never know.
Society may be formed so as to exist without crime, without poverty, […] no obstacle whatsoever intervenes at this moment except ignorance to prevent such a state of society.
Robert Owen
No, none of that would be necessary.
Or do we all just have to grow our own to be safe?
No, of course not.
Exactly like they are now, except without the government running the show.how these issues can be practically handled under your system
So, you are suggesting that the regularory agencies should be privatized? The EPA would be a for profit organization, as would the FCC, the FAA, the courts and the police and fire departments? If you don't like the verdict in K-Court, you then go to Wal-Court? Fire Departments -R- Us buys too few fire engines, you contract with The Water Boys? I said you need to explain how this will work, not give pithy responses that mean nothing. How does it WORK? How do you achieve any accountability? If there are laws, you have to have people enforcing them who are independant. Say I choose to contract for my police services with Blue Beat Enterprises and it ends up that the person who is having the wild party that is disturbing the peace is a "better" customer, owns 3 houses and 2 very large businesses in the same "jurisdiction". What keeps Blue Beat from making a bottom line calculation and choosing to ignore the violation so that it's shareholders can maximize returns on their investment? What will keep that from happening? Explain how it will be better for me to introduce those kind of calculations into the justice system? Or into the business of protecting the enviroment? Or the business of Airline regulation and safety. Explain it, don't dodge it.
All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard -
Tell me, could that be you?
John Kay
But that's my point. It is so with EVERY form of government. The argument is thus ineffective against libertarianism.A monopoly on food, I suppose, is possible and could be used as control. Would that be unlawful in a libertarian state? I'm not libertarian myself.
But this would lead to no gain. Control cannot be had within the laws of such a state. 1) It would lead to a revolt in the worst of situations. 2) They would simply be losing their money if pushed too far. And unless they had all land bought up food can be found or made elsewhere. Even in gardens and backyards.
This is one benefit of not depending on others. Life sources are not restricted.
"It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and I'm all out of gum." - Duke
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