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    Who let the killer dogs out?

    A famous sports figure was arrested for taking part in a dog fighting ring and he faces federal charges.

    Dog fighting has become popular again as a form of entertainment. And some of the dog owners are children who live in urban areas. Gambling is also involved.

    Some popular rap artists gloryify the "sport" in thier rap videos, which is an influence on those getting involved.

    Animal rights groups want the sports hero to be made an example of and so he was suspended from his contract as a football star. He could face up to 6 years in jail if convicted, he pleaded "not guilty".

    Football entertainment, rap entertainment, and dog fighting entertainment all seem to be connected to the advocation of violence.

    NFL's Vick pleads not guilty in dog-fighting case - Yahoo! News


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    Dog fighting is wrong don't get me there and it takes an immoral person to like it. However, if he was caught cock fighting, mongoose vs snake fighting, scorpin fighting or Japanese fighting fish fighting this wouldn't be front back news. A lot of NFL players have don't far worst.


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    It's not a matter of what you DO, so much as it's a matter of if you get nailed for it.


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    Um, dog fighting is up there on the BAD category - they must fight to the death, and if no dog kills the other, the loser is executed. His dogs were electrocuted, hung, shot......it is extremely cruel.

    And he wasn't just mildly involved. He had kennels on his property for 54 dogs. They fought in several states. He had T-shirts advertising his dog breeding and fighting business. Many, many thousands of dollars have illegally traded hands.

    It's despicable and I hope he goes to jail. He didn't even need the money - this was all just for FUN. Sicko.

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    I believe in all of our Constitutional protections and I believe Michael Vick deserves a trial. I believe the government must prove it's case before he is convicted and that he should do no jail time without a conviction. That being said, being found Not Guilty in court does not mean you are not guilty of the crime, it only means the government could not "prove" your guilt. Michael Vick is plainly and clearly involved in this shameful sport and my conviction of that will not put him in jail for one day. That is what the constitutional protections are there to ensure, that he not be punished without due process. That does not mean his "reputation" can not be harmed, nor does it mean I can not believe him to be an evil waste of flesh. I do.

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    Too bad Johnnie Cochran is dead. I think the Vick case would be a good fit for him.


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    Jail. Where he can find out what it feels like to be treated like a dog.

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    But not a single line in the 18-page indictment will generate more rage toward Vick and the others charged -- Purnell A. Peace, Quanis L. Phillips and Tony Taylor -- than a sentence near the end. It reads: "In or about April of 2007, Peace, Phillips and Vick executed approximately eight dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road by various methods, including hanging, drowning and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."

    "If you want to kill a dog, why exert the energy to slam him into the ground or drown him? Why not just shoot him, which is the most common method?" says John Goodwin, dogfighting expert for the Humane Society of the United States. "That is insane. These guys, if they did that, have serious problems."
    SI.com - NFL - George Dohrmann: Ugly details of Vick's indictment - Wednesday July 18, 2007 11:20AM

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    The latest and greatist from the mouth of Michael Vick in this morning's guilty plea agreement...

    From this experience, I have found Jesus!'

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    Hehe, I caught that, too. It made me think of one of my favorite bumperstickers: "Jesus loves you!...everyone else thinks you're an a**hole". Boy does that apply in Vick's case.



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    Quote Quote by: Maryjane View Post
    The latest and greatist from the mouth of Michael Vick in this morning's guilty plea agreement...

    From this experience, I have found Jesus!'
    He should have thought about doing that before he killed all those underperforming dogs.

    Funny, how people will try to use religion in a court of law to get mercy, they do that when meeting a probation pannel also. "I was a criminal and now I am a Christian, so can I go home"?

    It is like telling a judge "God forgave me so you should do the same thing". Suddenly when imprisioned they see their self as Jesus on the cross.

    Perhaps we should have a law about the seperation of religion from our courtrooms, with a extra fine if you do not conform?


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    Quote Quote by: lsbskins1 View Post
    I believe in all of our Constitutional protections and I believe Michael Vick deserves a trial. I believe the government must prove it's case before he is convicted and that he should do no jail time without a conviction. That being said, being found Not Guilty in court does not mean you are not guilty of the crime, it only means the government could not "prove" your guilt. Michael Vick is plainly and clearly involved in this shameful sport and my conviction of that will not put him in jail for one day. That is what the constitutional protections are there to ensure, that he not be punished without due process. That does not mean his "reputation" can not be harmed, nor does it mean I can not believe him to be an evil waste of flesh. I do.
    And he has officially admitted that I was right. He did it, he admitted it and I hope he never hears another cheer,never earns more than minimum wage and I hope, when he goes to hell, a dog gets to kill him over and over again for every interception he ever threw (cause that is underperforming in HIS job).

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