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Old Jul 13, 2007, 12:11 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Dad jailed 8 years for 'horrific' sex assault:

Dad jailed 8 years for 'horrific' sex assault

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EDMONTON -- A father who sexually assaulted his two-year-old daughter so brutally she needed several surgeries to repair her internal injuries has been sentenced to eight years in prison.

"The perpetrator of this crime held the highest degree of trust imaginable," provincial court Judge Michael Allen said Thursday at the sentencing hearing for the 23-year-old father.

"The offender abused his own child, in her own bed, in her own home when he was sole caregiver who was responsible for her welfare and well-being."

The father, who cannot be identified as it would reveal his daughter's identity, hung his head as the judge read the sentence. The little girl is now subject to a permanent guardianship order and is in the care of a foster family.

According to statement of facts presented at the hearing, the little girl had been in foster care for most of her young life but was returned to her father in April 2006 after he completed substance abuse and parenting courses.

Doctors suspected the child was being of abused she was brought to the hospital for what the father called a bad case of diaper rash.

The girl was referred to a children's hospital, where experts notified police.

A doctor would later say it was "one of the most horrific cases they have ever seen," and that the internal injuries could have been life-threatening.

The little girl was hospitalized for a week for surgery.

The girl's father admitted the abuse two days after she was released from hospital.

He told police he blamed alcohol for his actions.

According to the statement of facts, the man composed a letter to his daughter, in which he said "he doesn't know what made him think that way."

"Maybe because (the little girl) looks like her mom," he wrote.

The child's father must give a DNA sample to the national databank. For the rest of his life, he will report to the sex offender registry and is forbidden from being in a position of trust or authority over a child under 14 years of age.
One more sick bastard out there.... and once again.... one more sick bastard trying to blame it on something else like alcohol then their own actions.

I'm glad the child has survived, but my frig.... this shouldn't have happened in the first place.... and his other excuse was perhaps she reminded him of her mother?

Someone's been injecting Mr. Noodle soup broth into their viens or something..... frig.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 01:23 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Boy these stories sure aren't making Alberta look too good


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Old Jul 13, 2007, 01:29 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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And some people think he has a right to live his life.

I think about my 2-year old daughter and I can't even wrap my mind around the kind of person you have to be to do that to a child.

I would kill him on principle.


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Old Jul 13, 2007, 01:31 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Oh, I believe he has every right to live his life... without certain appendages unique to the male anatomy.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 01:37 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I think he should be raped severely to the point of needing surgery to repair his internal injuries.

And it should be done by someone 3 times his height and 6 times his weight.

Let the punishment fit the crime.


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Old Jul 13, 2007, 01:37 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Oh, I believe he has every right to live his life... without certain appendages unique to the male anatomy.
Would that be his adams apple?


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Old Jul 13, 2007, 01:48 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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/Is oh-so-proud to be an Albertan...
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 03:23 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Would that be his adams apple?
Hmm... Well, I have one of those too, it's just less pronounced. And it's not really an appendage.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 03:48 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Boy these stories sure aren't making Alberta look too good
You know, I have been thinking that as well. Being from Nova Scotia, I was thinking of moving there, since that seemed to be where all the jobs are.... and I think perhaps that's the problem.

Since the Oil Fields, everybody and their dog from across Canada and other countries have moved there for work.... now you guys got a giant population jump, lots of diversity and various cultural backgrounds all in one place.... (Mainly Fort McMurry.... or is it MacMurry?) The crime rate was bound to increase... not that it had anything to do directly with Alberta, but with the large surge of people moving there... it's bound to increase the crime rate. Differences, cultural background, new location, people getting defensive, etc.... a few people from NS have already been stabbed, beaten or killed up there.... but I think it has to do more about how fast everybody moved there, and how dense the population is now....

Not as an insult, but it's almost like the place grew like a Ghetto. Wherever there is lots of work and opportunity, those who never had it will surely go there.... and they'll bring all their baggage with them too.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 03:53 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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As it goes for this guy.... he's just one more freak to add onto the pile of those who prey on children.... one more person who posses serious risk and should be either delt with in a sever manner for his own learning of lessons, or even worse... made an extreme example out of.... and I like examples being made out of people..... it's a very effective way of getting the message across.

I say shove a baseball bat up his ass coated in lemon juice and shards of glass. Stick the freak out in the middle of downtown, ram him real good with the bat and then yank the thing out and shake it at the crowd screaming "DON'T DO WHAT HE DID OR THIS WILL BE YOU!!!! GOT IT!!!!"

I'm pretty sure that might get across to a few.

(Whoever said Canadians were nice?)
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 03:54 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I saw feed the bastard--alive-- to the lions and tigers at the zoo.

Here kitty, kitty, kitty

This man does not deserve to breath the air we do.
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Old Jul 13, 2007, 06:11 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Hahaha. Yeah, all that matters is our anger against him. What does he "deserve"? Capital punishment? Why are we so comfortable with murder when it's issued by the state. Is the state above the law? No. In all fairness, he should be sexually assaulted, and I can only image our views towards the state official willing to carry out such a sentence. Let's just get this straight, capital punishment would not have PREVENTED these offences since it is a REACTIVE (rather emotional) solution.


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Old Jul 13, 2007, 08:16 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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If it makes you feel any better, the Adam Walsh Act rolling out to a state near you will ensure 25-life on these types of crimes as a mandatory sentence.


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Old Jul 14, 2007, 01:39 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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You know, I have been thinking that as well. Being from Nova Scotia, I was thinking of moving there, since that seemed to be where all the jobs are.... and I think perhaps that's the problem.

Since the Oil Fields, everybody and their dog from across Canada and other countries have moved there for work.... now you guys got a giant population jump, lots of diversity and various cultural backgrounds all in one place.... (Mainly Fort McMurry.... or is it MacMurry?) The crime rate was bound to increase... not that it had anything to do directly with Alberta, but with the large surge of people moving there... it's bound to increase the crime rate. Differences, cultural background, new location, people getting defensive, etc.... a few people from NS have already been stabbed, beaten or killed up there.... but I think it has to do more about how fast everybody moved there, and how dense the population is now....

Not as an insult, but it's almost like the place grew like a Ghetto. Wherever there is lots of work and opportunity, those who never had it will surely go there.... and they'll bring all their baggage with them too.
Well that is basically true. Things are to the point where even if you make good money you might not find a place to live! It is pretty cramped out here. With a massively booming economy comes some down sides. You have people out here making upwards of $300,000/year and then they spend their nights in the bars getting drunk and stoned, there is bound to be problems.

Overall though it can be a great place to live.


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Old Jul 14, 2007, 02:01 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Hahaha. Yeah, all that matters is our anger against him. What does he "deserve"? Capital punishment? Why are we so comfortable with murder when it's issued by the state. Is the state above the law? No. In all fairness, he should be sexually assaulted, and I can only image our views towards the state official willing to carry out such a sentence. Let's just get this straight, capital punishment would not have PREVENTED these offences since it is a REACTIVE (rather emotional) solution.
I lightly mentioned that killing him would be one nice option..... I however recomended the baseball bat with lemon juice and shards of glass.

Perhaps the reason why people are for capital punishment in some cases, is because the person who is being executed is someone who has already taken at least one life already, or has done enough damage to at least one person that they can not live a normal life, or the life that they might have had prior to the incident..... it's called justice in some countries.... and in some countries.... it doesn't stop or prevent what has already happened, but it eliminated one factor in society which has already proven to be a danger to it.... why allow more chances?

Killing, raping and other serious crimes are pretty dam obvious.... everybody know's they're wrong.... so if they commit any of these crimes, that's clear disregard for any human life or their safety.... therefore if they have no care for others around them, why the bloody hell should we? Why should they be permitted to have a roof over their heads, 3 square meals a day, and no worries that we all gotta bother with everyday...... no job, no kids, no relationship.... they get to live their lives pretty sweetly considdering what they have done...... and it's all thanks to your tax dollars.

And the State relates to the States..... Welcome to Canada eh...... in this topic, your laws may not apply exactly as they normally would.
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Old Jul 14, 2007, 10:12 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Yes Praxius, you are right! Why should we keep building more and more prisons so the inmates are not overcrowded, be so concerned about the treatment the inmates receive and the luxuries they have? They get free medical, cable, education, food and clothing. I dont see any decent hardworking people getting that anywhere! True they do not have the freedom to wander around and look for more victims. Why should we work and have our money spent to care for these individuals who obviously have disregard for human life.

Capital Punishment would put an end to the over crowding and the building of new prisons. There is currently an inmate in Minnesota that is suing the state for a sex change operation. Why..because he can! Hell, now people are concerned about the inmate suffering during their execution. Were these people concerned with the suffering of their victims? NO!

Have we learned or benefitted in anyway by keeping these people incarcerated? We should not be taking care of Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Dennis Radar, just to name a few. I have no problems with seeing these people executed. The more soft we become on horrific crimes the more horrific the crimes become
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Old Jul 14, 2007, 10:39 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I think the issue should be looked at this way:

If a man violently rapes his toddler to the point of severe injury, what contributions can he still make to society?

He has demonstrated that he is incapable of adhering to the single level of social responsibility (wife and children) beyond himself. If he can't look out for the well-being of his own flesh and blood, what good is he to the rest of us?


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Old Jul 14, 2007, 11:31 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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I think he should be raped severely to the point of needing surgery to repair his internal injuries.

And it should be done by someone 3 times his height and 6 times his weight.

Let the punishment fit the crime.

Heh, I imagine the only thing you could do with that is get a horse. (owwwww)

Wasnt there some sick dude who paid some other guy to let his horse rape him and he suffered internal injuries or something?

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Old Jul 14, 2007, 11:49 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Have we learned or benefitted in anyway by keeping these people incarcerated? We should not be taking care of Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Dennis Radar, just to name a few.
In all fairness to the people listed and bearing in mind other extreme cases, I think we would better be served through their study than their execution. Don't get me wrong, I fully support capital punishment, but people like Ted Bundy and others as extreme as or worse have equally extreme value in terms of discovering the way the minds of these individuals work so that we may more effectively combat new threats in the form of those following in their footsteps unintentionally or otherwise.


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Old Jul 15, 2007, 01:22 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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We haven't learned anything from them thus far keeping them in jail, what more are we gonna learn except that they get a kick out of messing with our heads when we ask them questions? It's the only entertainment they get now...... they got a fan base, and we think they hold some keys to stopping others like them and they play it.
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