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    Volcanic Erupter The Decider's Avatar
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    Beauty and the Beast

    Come on, the penis is simply not as photogenic as the vagina. This beast of an organ lacks the classic beauty of the female "triangle." In a typical frontal shot, the viewer sees the vagina's outer panel. The penis has nowhere to hide. And some penii should remain hidden. Who desires to see a crooked, uncircumcized, hairy phallus in full swing? "Grace" does not come to mind.

    I prefer the Beauty to the Beast. Keep male frontal nudity to a minimum.

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    I'm thinking of the two versions I have seen of Monty Python's "Life of Brian". Both feature a scene where Brian, having just spent the night with his new girlfriend, stolls naked to the long window and throws it open...to find himself facing a street packed wall-to-wall with an adoring crowd, all staring at that window just waiting for him to appear.

    The sanitised version implies, but does not actually show his nudity. The uncut version shows the Full Monty. There is no question of which better conveys Brian's horror and mortification at the situation.

    I hate gratuitous nudity, male or female. In most cases it is included to titilate viewers, or the director is going for shock value (a pretty juvenile and lazy technique, in my opinion).

    But there are times when it makes the story work. Think Mark Wahlburg in "Boogie Nights", playing a porn star who wins "Best dick" awards. When he pulls out his penis in front of a mirror, looks at his reflection and intones "You're a star, you're a star, you're a bright shiny star", the nudity is a necessary part of understanding the character.

    I think male nudity is taboo for a number of reasons.

    1. Most of us are more comfortable with the nudity of the opposite sex than our own; I'm certainly more comfortable looking at naked men than naked women. Yes, I think that's to do with the homoerotic overtones of same-sex nudity. There are more male movie financiers, directors, workers and patrons than women, naturally male sensitivities are catered to more than women's.

    2. Naturalistic depictions of nude women are very common in Western art throughout the ages. Naturalistic depections of nude men are virtually unknown. In general the male genitals are shown either unrealistically large or small. Ancient Greek statuary features adult men with pre-pubescent genitals (which is creepy). So while we are well conditioned to accept naked women in art (including film), realistic naked men comes as something of a nasty shock.

    3. The few realistic naked men in art are usually in very unpleasant situations; the most common are committing rape or indulging in a debauched drunken orgy. The women in these situations usually have only their breasts exposed, or are naked but with their back to the viewer. Full frontal nudity is, for women, usually reserved for pleasant situations; lying languously on couches looking at cherubs.

    So to sum up;
    -naked women have more appeal to the majority of movie makers and goers than naked men
    -both men and women have been conditioned to accept realistic female nudity as positive through millenia of artworks
    - the same artworks portray realistic male nudity in a very negative way.

    And this, I think, is why female nudity is seen as more acceptable on screen than male.

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    Síochán leat vicious-vegan's Avatar
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    I said, yes. I, personally, would like to see more naked men in movies. I'm getting tired of seeing girls naked all the time.

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    Síochán leat vicious-vegan's Avatar
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    Quote Quote by: Brunhilde View Post
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    2. Naturalistic depictions of nude women are very common in Western art throughout the ages.



    So to sum up;
    -naked women have more appeal to the majority of movie makers and goers than naked men
    -both men and women have been conditioned to accept realistic female nudity as positive through millenia of artworks
    - the same artworks portray realistic male nudity in a very negative way.

    And this, I think, is why female nudity is seen as more acceptable on screen than male.
    But, isn't that kind of offensive? You know, making women out to be sex objects, like we're they only ones being sexy- and so on. That isn't cool.

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    I get tired of seeing both naked men and women. I personally don't think nakedness is sexy at all. I think perhaps a little clothing would be sexier than no clothing at all. Well, that's MHO.

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    There is nothing wrong or embarrassing about the human form. I see no reason why it shouldn't be allowed on film. .

    Now obviously not all directors show good taste when they use nudity. For instance I felt it was totally uncalled for at the end of Munich.
    -Chris

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    Quote Quote by: Madeline View Post
    I get tired of seeing both naked men and women. I personally don't think nakedness is sexy at all. I think perhaps a little clothing would be sexier than no clothing at all. Well, that's MHO.

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    Oh, come on! God obviously found Adam and Eve sexy enough when they were naked that he had to ask them to put on some leaves.

    That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves. - Thomas Jefferson

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    Síochán leat vicious-vegan's Avatar
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    Really? Well, that's nice.

    Maybe you're right. But I don't think we should censor it, that's silly.
    "Always stand for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

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    Quote Quote by: Hmm View Post
    Oh, come on! God obviously found Adam and Eve sexy enough when they were naked that he had to ask them to put on some leaves.

    In the book of Genesis, God provided Adam and Eve animal skins to cover their "shame". Nakedness is considered shame in the bible. But I'm sure that you don't agree with this, and that's ok...I respect your opinion anyways.

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    Síochán leat vicious-vegan's Avatar
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    Calling it "shame" is a shame, really.
    "Always stand for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

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    Quote Quote by: vicious-vegan View Post
    But, isn't that kind of offensive? You know, making women out to be sex objects, like we're they only ones being sexy- and so on. That isn't cool.
    I agree it's sexist and treats women as sex objects, Vicious. I was just musing on why we see male nudity as more taboo than female, not whether that greater taboo is good or bad.

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    Ah, okay. I see what you mean now. It's very true.

    If we showed naked men as much as we show naked women, people would be more okay with it, I bet.
    "Always stand for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

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