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Osborn F Enready · Apr 27, 2007, 03:03 am

Limbaugh is an idiot, and so is Baldwin, but I don't dislike Baldwin less or more over this issue, while I do dislike scumbag Limbaugh less, for bringing yet more PERSONAL DRAMA into the air of media BS for political marginalization.

The bad thing is about Limbaugh, as Coulter, anyone who doesn't agree with them lock stock and barrel is a "leftist" or "liberal".

They are shills, schams and moutpieces for garbage, and are equal to the likes of "Rosie O' Donnel" and the "drama queens" on shows like "Talk Soup", in my opinion.

Scribbler1 · Apr 28, 2007, 08:36 pm

Throughout this thread (as well as the media) I've been noticing no one has mentioned what went on with his daughter AFTER this message was "leaked".
It seems as though people in general, and the media in particular are overlooking the apparent fact that they have all denied this guy the ability to quietly, and seriously defuse the issue by simply apologizing.

I can see a situation where if I had flown off the handle at my Son like that, I would have taken him aside and simply said "Son, I apologize for what I said before. I was angry and didn't mean to take it out on you."
You know what usually happens in situations like that? The kid says "That's okay Pop. No problem."

This is just another case of getting a part of a story, jumping to conclusions and trashing someone over something quite likely minor and easily fixed. At least I'm very sure it WOULD be seen as minor had it happened to any of Baldwin's severest critics over this.

Maybe a new term ought to find its way into the lexicon. He "pulled an Imus" might do it.

Compugasm · May 8, 2007, 02:48 am

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Kim Basinger got ahold of it and released it on the internet.

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First of all, we only heard one half the story, and an ugly half.

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The divorce is messy.

Sounds like Alec isn't the only one who needs to appologize. Kimmy doesn't sound totally innocent if you ask me. A court appointed time to make a phonecall? That's fucked up. He should look into Cingular favorite 5 networks. It's just been expanded into 10 friends, on any carrier.

ZNFYRH · May 8, 2007, 08:46 am

Heh heh... methinks Compugasm works for Cingular.

But yeah, it's one-sided.

As something of an update, Alec has appeared on quite a few talk shows to speak about what he said, and something interesting came up.

One talk show host admitted that all parents, at some point, and especially with a teenager, probably say something horrible that they wish they could take back.

Alec agreed and said he would do anything to take it back.

Yeah, he screwed up... but I think all parents screw up at some point. His screw up was that he is a public figure with a vindictive wife.

Compugasm · May 8, 2007, 04:52 pm

I'd like to see a series of parenting books done by Alec Baldwin. Titles could include:

1. You spilled the milk!!! Again God damnit!
2. You're stupid, just like your mother.
3. I love you, when you're not around.
4. Get me a beer. You fucking fucker... now [burp] and a chicken sandwich while you're in the kitchen... bitch. I said NOW!

ZNFYRH · May 8, 2007, 11:32 pm

Pure hilarity, Compugasm.

I laughed out loud.

fushigi · May 8, 2007, 11:35 pm

Yeah, that's good. Deserves a spot on The Onion.

May 9, 2007, 06:09 pm

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Quote by: PatrickHenry

The rage of a frustrated father.

Most of you on this board are too young to know what it feels like to be treated contemptibly by your offspring. But I know. And I sympathize with Baldwin's frustration and anger.

His language? Over the top and inexcusable considering his daughter's age and gender. His attitude of correction and determination to discipline is entirely justified, however.

Children need to respect their parents. Parents need to love their children. It looks like they both failed in this instance.

Is their relationship over? Hardly. Is Balwin's career over? Get real, he's a big star and an accomplished actor. Will he always be a target for the BO from the right-wing armpit like Limbaugh because of his "liberal views" and high political profile? You know he will, unless he turns his money and talents into support for the war criminals.

Great post.

Regards
S.

Compugasm · May 10, 2007, 05:15 am

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I laughed out loud.

Cool, Then here is the comic.

I kinda like using you guys as a testing ground to see if an idea is funny or not. Funny = make a comic, crickets = don't bother. I should have thought of doing that when this story broke... It's a few weeks old now. I'll post this one comic, I don't want to spam the boards with 5 variations on this one idea.

fushigi · May 10, 2007, 06:26 am

Actually, Compugasm, Bantam already published a similar book--they beat you to the punch. I guess Alec is one of those "when life throws you lemons, make lemonade" types.

Here are some screenshots from Amazon:

Front cover:

Back cover:

ZNFYRH · May 10, 2007, 08:02 am

Damn... can't see the pics here from work.

I'll have to wait until I get home.

Compugasm · May 10, 2007, 08:18 am

Hmm, if anything, this just points out that the idea was "too easy" for comedy. Better might have been the return phone message from the daughter. Or Adam Sandler used to do a "Denise Show" where he would talk about his ex-girlfriend. So, Kim Bassinger now has her own show where she plays phone messages from Alec. Ah well, this stories probably dead by now so.. jokes over.

Holy Jesus... So I went to MSNBC and looked for a news story about Paris Hilton. At the end of the article, I noticed it said [232 comments] and thought to myself, boy this story isn't more than 2 days old, that's a lot of comments. So, I clicked it and therein I discoverd a horror of the internet. That wasn't a post count, it was a PAGE count. Yeah, 232 PAGES of people throwing in their comments about Paris Hilton being arrested.

fushigi · May 10, 2007, 11:42 pm

Uh, actually, the book cover was my homage to you, C.

Compugasm · May 11, 2007, 02:19 pm

Ah, you made that. Cool then, good job.

Compugasm · May 23, 2007, 10:02 pm

Another family member exposing celebrity dirt. Forget Alec Baldwin, check out David Hasselhoff drunk on the floor.

Update: Damn, I guess this story is a month old now. Check out this hilarious Wendy's parody ad.

Mozart1220 · May 29, 2007, 06:11 pm

MOst parents, especially those who have to jump through hoops and fight the system just to see their kids have days like that. Most of us just don't have our rants posted all over the media. Give the guy a break already.

**Chris the Chees** · Jun 1, 2007, 12:37 pm

Rush is such a hypocrite:

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Rush Limbaugh, one of our leading conservative radio talk show hosts and "political commentators" demonstrated what conservatives are like when off air.

What I'm talking about

Does this imply that all conservatives are drug addicts who feed their addictions through illegal means?

Mozart1220 · Jun 1, 2007, 09:10 pm

Any of the rest of us would either do time or be placed on probation. He WAS "arrested" given that he HAD to surrender himself or they would have gone to get him.

I always thought that a "not guilty" plea meant that it goes to trial. Must be nice to live in Florida and be connected to the Republican elite

Apr 27, 2007, 03:03 am	#21 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Limbaugh is an idiot, and so is Baldwin, but I don't dislike Baldwin less or more over this issue, while I do dislike scumbag Limbaugh less, for bringing yet more PERSONAL DRAMA into the air of media BS for political marginalization. The bad thing is about Limbaugh, as Coulter, anyone who doesn't agree with them lock stock and barrel is a "leftist" or "liberal". They are shills, schams and moutpieces for garbage, and are equal to the likes of "Rosie O' Donnel" and the "drama queens" on shows like "Talk Soup", in my opinion. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Apr 28, 2007, 08:36 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1 Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746	Throughout this thread (as well as the media) I've been noticing no one has mentioned what went on with his daughter AFTER this message was "leaked". It seems as though people in general, and the media in particular are overlooking the apparent fact that they have all denied this guy the ability to quietly, and seriously defuse the issue by simply apologizing. I can see a situation where if I had flown off the handle at my Son like that, I would have taken him aside and simply said "Son, I apologize for what I said before. I was angry and didn't mean to take it out on you." You know what usually happens in situations like that? The kid says "That's okay Pop. No problem." This is just another case of getting a part of a story, jumping to conclusions and trashing someone over something quite likely minor and easily fixed. At least I'm very sure it WOULD be seen as minor had it happened to any of Baldwin's severest critics over this. Maybe a new term ought to find its way into the lexicon. He "pulled an Imus" might do it. Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

May 8, 2007, 04:52 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780	I'd like to see a series of parenting books done by Alec Baldwin. Titles could include: 1. You spilled the milk!!! Again God damnit! 2. You're stupid, just like your mother. 3. I love you, when you're not around. 4. Get me a beer. You fucking fucker... now [burp] and a chicken sandwich while you're in the kitchen... bitch. I said NOW! Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!

May 8, 2007, 11:35 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
fushigi Hot Lava Location: Beijing Posts: 2,340	Yeah, that's good. Deserves a spot on The Onion. "What truth endures beneath the flaming stream?" -- A Volcano, Bartolome de Las Casas, Inferno de Marsaya, 1536

May 10, 2007, 06:26 am	#30 (permalink) (top)
fushigi Hot Lava Location: Beijing Posts: 2,340	Actually, Compugasm, Bantam already published a similar book--they beat you to the punch. I guess Alec is one of those "when life throws you lemons, make lemonade" types. Here are some screenshots from Amazon: Front cover: Back cover: "What truth endures beneath the flaming stream?" -- A Volcano, Bartolome de Las Casas, Inferno de Marsaya, 1536

May 8, 2007, 08:46 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	Heh heh... methinks Compugasm works for Cingular. But yeah, it's one-sided. As something of an update, Alec has appeared on quite a few talk shows to speak about what he said, and something interesting came up. One talk show host admitted that all parents, at some point, and especially with a teenager, probably say something horrible that they wish they could take back. Alec agreed and said he would do anything to take it back. Yeah, he screwed up... but I think all parents screw up at some point. His screw up was that he is a public figure with a vindictive wife.

May 8, 2007, 11:32 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	Pure hilarity, Compugasm. I laughed out loud.

May 10, 2007, 08:02 am	#31 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	Damn... can't see the pics here from work. I'll have to wait until I get home.

May 10, 2007, 08:18 am	#32 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780	Hmm, if anything, this just points out that the idea was "too easy" for comedy. Better might have been the return phone message from the daughter. Or Adam Sandler used to do a "Denise Show" where he would talk about his ex-girlfriend. So, Kim Bassinger now has her own show where she plays phone messages from Alec. Ah well, this stories probably dead by now so.. jokes over. Holy Jesus... So I went to MSNBC and looked for a news story about Paris Hilton. At the end of the article, I noticed it said [232 comments] and thought to myself, boy this story isn't more than 2 days old, that's a lot of comments. So, I clicked it and therein I discoverd a horror of the internet. That wasn't a post count, it was a PAGE count. Yeah, 232 PAGES of people throwing in their comments about Paris Hilton being arrested. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh! Last edited by Compugasm; May 10, 2007 at 10:02 am.

May 10, 2007, 11:42 pm	#33 (permalink) (top)
fushigi Hot Lava Location: Beijing Posts: 2,340	Uh, actually, the book cover was my homage to you, C. "What truth endures beneath the flaming stream?" -- A Volcano, Bartolome de Las Casas, Inferno de Marsaya, 1536

May 11, 2007, 02:19 pm	#34 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780	Ah, you made that. Cool then, good job. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!

May 23, 2007, 10:02 pm	#35 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780	Another family member exposing celebrity dirt. Forget Alec Baldwin, check out David Hasselhoff drunk on the floor. Update: Damn, I guess this story is a month old now. Check out this hilarious Wendy's parody ad. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh! Last edited by Compugasm; May 23, 2007 at 10:36 pm.

May 29, 2007, 06:11 pm	#36 (permalink) (top)
Mozart1220 Igneous Magma Posts: 687	MOst parents, especially those who have to jump through hoops and fight the system just to see their kids have days like that. Most of us just don't have our rants posted all over the media. Give the guy a break already. Big Jr is watching you!

Jun 1, 2007, 09:10 pm	#38 (permalink) (top)
Mozart1220 Igneous Magma Posts: 687	Any of the rest of us would either do time or be placed on probation. He WAS "arrested" given that he HAD to surrender himself or they would have gone to get him. I always thought that a "not guilty" plea meant that it goes to trial. Must be nice to live in Florida and be connected to the Republican elite Big Jr is watching you!