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Old Jan 25, 2007, 02:23 pm   #21 (permalink)
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The thread is titled "Double Standard." The link is to Malkin's "Vent". Malkin ranks right up there, in my view anyway, with Ann Coulter for being bigotted and dishonest.

If ROC is indeed part Japanese, I think it is a fair observation that it is odd that he seems more offended by Rosie’s stupid routine than he is by Malkin's justifying the internment of Japanese Americans in WWII. That strikes me as a whopper of a double standard.
I can't disagree with your logic but it deflects away from Rosie's idiotic demeanor and refocuses on a comparison of her to other idiots. It is rather like saying "yeah, we have a village idiot, but she isn't as bad as your village idiot." I don't see the value in it.


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Old Jan 25, 2007, 02:41 pm   #22 (permalink)
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I can't disagree with your logic but it deflects away from Rosie's idiotic demeanor and refocuses on a comparison of her to other idiots. It is rather like saying "yeah, we have a village idiot, but she isn't as bad as your village idiot." I don't see the value in it.
I think Rosie's bit was stupid but not a big deal. Malkin's beating up on Rosie by specifically doing what Rosie did, strikes me as far more offensive. And I would like to hear if ROC finds justifying the Japanese internment to be less offensive than a few seconds of Rosie's stupid "ching chang chong."


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Old Jan 25, 2007, 02:49 pm   #23 (permalink)
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So, are you saying that when the KKK rallies and spews it racial hatred, they are subject to arrest?
It would have to depend on what and how they say it I believe. We don't have too many KKK rallies here, so I can not have a valid point on this.

But there is a bit of a difference between having a rally and expressing freedom of speech with those who are willing to be there to hear it, and someone throwing their personal views out for all to see and expect no one to get offended.

Most people in the working industry, if they spouted something racist at their workplace, they would be fired. She just did the same thing at her workplace, and it's all good it seems.

Actually now that I think about your question...... should they be arrested?

I will answer with another question...... how come people in Europe and even here in N.America, people can be arrested and charged for claiming the Holocaust never happened..... where's the logic in that? It would be freedom of speech, but they are still being forced to change their expressions on the matter or face jail time.

In thinking this way, if you can get arrested just for saying the Holocaust never occurred, then you should be arrested for KKK demonstrations, and the sort.

I don't agree on it, per say.... but if you're gonna do one thing one way, you might as well do everything the same way..... not perfect, but what is?

Instead of continuing on this tangent, I'm gonna jump back..... That cow shouldn't be getting away with what she is doing, and I can almost promise you that she'll just do it again until people get royally pissed at her.

And I never thought of her as being funny.... ever.

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 02:58 pm   #24 (permalink)
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I think Rosie's bit was stupid but not a big deal
But it certainly was a big deal to the Asian Community as I pointed out in previous posts. Because you or I may think it not a big deal, doesn't reflect what the Asian community thinks and how they reacted to her rant. Malkin aside, the Asian Community was very offended at her behavior and, as I showed also in a previous post, even more offended at her so called apology.

Aside what we may think about it, she clearly offended the Asiain Community. To dredge up past offenses to the Asian American community in order to deflect away from Rosie's rant, is merely confusing the issue.


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Old Jan 25, 2007, 08:53 pm   #25 (permalink)
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I never thought of her as being funny.... ever.
Try thinking of her as a sex object, it's easier to accept.
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 10:21 am   #26 (permalink)
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Try thinking of her as a sex object, it's easier to accept.
Yeah.... ok.... watch me grab a fold and F* it...... :eek:
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 10:42 am   #27 (permalink)
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To dredge up past offenses to the Asian American community in order to deflect away from Rosie's rant, is merely confusing the issue.
I'm not doing anything of the sort. I am merely pointing out that Malkin, the woman doing the Rosie "ching chang" impersonation on the linked video, has recently written a far more more offensive anti-Japanese screed.

I think attacking Rosie while giving Michelle "internment is peachy" Malkin a pass is the real double standard.

In Defense of Internment: The Case for 'Racial Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror by Michelle Malkin


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Old Jan 26, 2007, 10:52 am   #28 (permalink)
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I think attacking Rosie while giving Michelle "internment is peachy" Malkin a pass is the real double standard.
And as I pointed out, to say your village idiot is more of an idiot than another's village idiot serves no purpose at all. They are both idiots at the end of the day. I can't disagree that both women you cite indeed qualify for the double standard point. We could also add many more from either side of the political spectrum so what does it mean? It simply means many people from both sides of the political spectrum enjoy free passes from those with a political ax to grind, Rosie included here. Such is politics, is it not Ric?


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Old Jan 29, 2007, 02:06 am   #29 (permalink)
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Although Rosie may be ignorant and probably can't speak any Asian language, I didn't see anything wrong with the video. It was racist to an extent, but where do we draw the line?

I mean, if I tell a joke to a friend while we're walking down the street and someone(a black person) overhears that joke, and it's a racist joke, it doesn't really mean I'm racist. Rosie was just trying to be funny, which she failed at doing. I don't know anyone personally who'd watch her show, much less some of the other bullshit on TV.

Saying it on television is different though as tons of people watch and hear what she says, but I still don't think if I were Asian, I'd take offense to it, and if I did, I wouldn't be calling her a fat ass like I saw someone else post. You just caused your statement to be invalid even if you are Asian.

I don't know why anyone bothers listening to that crap anyway... I watch TV for quality movies, and one of my favorites is American History X. Do I think Edward Norton should be punished because he said some racial terms in the movie? No, why? Because it's a movie, just like you wouldn't see Rosie do the ching chong joke in front of Asian people.

And if you are bashing her because of what she said, what about Carlos Mencia? Do you think he's a racist, making fun of all different races and types of people? It amazes me at how people buy into this race thing like they care......


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