Fox hunting rocks

[rokinross]

Fox hunting is though frowned apon very important it helps keep the natural balance and if we don't kill foxes they will kill livestock and the way of living for farmers

[Blef]

And if we don't kill cows and pigs. we won't have tasty steaks and bacon.

Your reasons sound like justifications. You don't need to feel bad about killing foxes.

What is the political or governmental angle on this that you're trying to bring to light?

[G. Adams]

Quote by: Blef And if we don't kill cows and pigs. we won't have tasty steaks and bacon. Your reasons sound like justifications. You don't need to feel bad about killing foxes. What is the political or governmental angle on this that you're trying to bring to light?

In the UK, Parliament has banned hunting with dogs. However, dogs may be used to flush out foxes before shooting them.

Personally, I don't think it's government business to deal with the hunters. Foxes arn't on the brink of extinction. In fact, it's typically the unfit foxes that get caught, thus keeping the fox population strong. This wouldn't happen naturally because the fox has no predators in the UK besides man, and won't happen with shooting.

Fox hunting was only banned because the government needed to throw a bone to it's back benchers who were getting restless since it brought in top up fees and way too many PFI projects.

[Matt W]

Quote by: rokinross Fox hunting is though frowned apon very important it helps keep the natural balance and if we don't kill foxes they will kill livestock and the way of living for farmers

Great. Nice. Now, was there a debate you were interested in? :rolleyes:

[RickSp]

"Fox hunting rocks"

I am confused. Why are foxes hunting rocks?

[Nono]

No, just one (singular verb form you see). He turned to geology when he discovered how well wired up the chicken coops were.

[RickSp]

I hope the geologist fox is supplementing his diet. Rocks are good for mineral content but tend to be low in protein and amino acids.

[Chris the Chees]

I must say, I like the others who have passed comment on this thread, fail to see the potential for debate and I certainly don't see why it is in politics and government. The issue of fox hunting is not so much a political issue as it is a , cultural social and moral issue.

Moving to society and rights.

[pahl]

Geologist fox?

Seriously, there is no such thing.

Its obviously rocks that hunts foxes. "Fox hunting rocks" as they are called.

[kubedawg]

These awful murderous rocks must be STOPPED!!

[RickSp]

Quote by: pahl Geologist fox? Seriously, there is no such thing. Its obviously rocks that hunts foxes. "Fox hunting rocks" as they are called.

You know, come to think of it, I think I saw that movie.

[Cadre]

This thread delivers LOL!

[CoffeeSaint]

The idea of the thread seems to be, if we don't try our damnedest to kill nature, nature will kill us -- or at least make us really unhappy. I think I'm down with that. Trees have always pissed me off: all tall and arrogant, looking down on me, swaying gently in the breeze, blocking my sun. I say we chop 'em down. Then -- THEN! -- we go after those frickin' rainbows. Hate those things.

[Chris the Chees]

My personal belief regarding fox hunting is that it is a somewhat unsporting 'sport', if the foxes were armed with a high powered fire arm and it was a case of man vs beast, it would be a much more sporting affair.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Quote by: Chris the Chees My personal belief regarding fox hunting is that it is a somewhat unsporting 'sport', if the foxes were armed with a high powered fire arm and it was a case of man vs beast, it would be a much more sporting affair.

Well said. The thing is, hunters have no intention of making their 'sport' fair. If so, then there would be an almost 50/50 ratio of kills on both sides of the playing field.

The should call it what it really is, "killing for fun."

[G. Adams]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Well said. The thing is, hunters have no intention of making their 'sport' fair. If so, then there would be an almost 50/50 ratio of kills on both sides of the playing field. The should call it what it really is, "killing for fun."

The chickens and hens don't get much of a sporting chance either. One might argue the huntsmen are redressing the balance. Of course, they don't kill as many foxes as foxes kill livestock.

Besides, what business is it of government to stop killing foxes for fun?

[Nono]

Well, G., it's perfectly legitimate to ask why they go about it in such a ritualistic, inefficient manner. The answer (and entire explanation) is: 'Cause it's fun.

Quote by: pahl Its obviously rocks that hunts foxes. "Fox hunting rocks" as they are called.

In primary school there was a girl named Jane Fox. Whenever someone uttered her name, I made a point of saying "She does?"
Well it was primary school...

[Chris the Chees]

Besides, what business is it of government to stop killing foxes for fun?

It is the buisness of the governement to enact the will of the people they represent, and it is the will of the people that fox hunting be brought to an end.

To expand a little further, it is the duty of the government to enact the policies which were on their election manifesto's, the policies which they promised to fulfill. The labour party manifesto's have, since 1997 consistantly promised to conclude the issue of fox hunting.

That is one of the promises which they made prior to election, and as they are in power, it is unquestionably not just their buisness but it is their responcibility.

Does that answer your question?

[G. Adams]

Quote by: Chris the Chees It is the buisness of the governement to enact the will of the people they represent, and it is the will of the people that fox hunting be brought to an end. To expand a little further, it is the duty of the government to enact the policies which were on their election manifesto's, the policies which they promised to fulfill. The labour party manifesto's have, since 1997 consistantly promised to conclude the issue of fox hunting. That is one of the promises which they made prior to election, and as they are in power, it is unquestionably not just their buisness but it is their responcibility. Does that answer your question?

No it doesn't, not at all, but it requires us to go to into a discussion of the purpose of government, which we can't do in this thread to any great length.

No party, irrespective of manifesto or claimed mandate, has the right to act outside of it's jurisdiction. This is another example of the need of the UK to have a constitution which specifies what is or is not the business of government.

[Chris the Chees]

What you believe the mandate of the government should be is not a point of relevence to the question - what the mandate of the government actually is, at the moment, is relevent.