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Old Dec 27, 2006, 07:38 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:46 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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My personal belief regarding fox hunting is that it is a somewhat unsporting 'sport', if the foxes were armed with a high powered fire arm and it was a case of man vs beast, it would be a much more sporting affair.
I have to agree with you in principle (if not in a practical sense).

It's pretty unsporting to lug a sniper rifle equipped with ultra-tech night vision enhancements against a fox armed with teeth.

Of course in a practical sense, since humans are the Superior Species, we cannot allow ourselves to be hurt by a non-human scum.


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Old Apr 12, 2007, 02:47 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I dislike the idea of killing something just because it might be fun. hunting for furs is a waste as well.

Unless you are using it to supplement your diet or unless you or someone else's life is in immediate danger, then hunting is a waste.

It reminds me when the vice president shot that guy in the face.

the face shooting beside, has anyone ever seen or heard about the quail hunting industry?

the owners of the range go out and place the quails in specific places prior to the hunters going through.

You would pay the owner how many quails you want to hunt and he would go out and place them manually in the grass. You then get to go through and startle and shoot the birds. no tracking skill necessary and no chance to escape.

why are the most powerful men in America resorting to hunting one of the least dangerous and most defenseless animals in world? why are they hunting in a carefully controlled environment that requires no skill of the hunter to use. its basically like shooting fish in barrel.

and how did the vice president of the United States of America manage to mess up such a controlled environment and shoot his friend in the face?
( I had to make at least one face shooting reference)

I hope they at least eat those birds so they didn't go to waste.


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Old Apr 14, 2007, 08:48 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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why are the most powerful men in America resorting to hunting one of the least dangerous and most defenseless animals in world? why are they hunting in a carefully controlled environment that requires no skill of the hunter to use. its basically like shooting fish in barrel.
Because, as much as they want us to believe that they are a sporting chap and that the fun is in the hunt, the reality is the ultimate fun for them is in the kill. I guess it makes some feel even more powerful when they have power over life and death, and for them that means weilding death.
Fox hunting rocks?
Well, not for the foxes, and if I were ripped piece by piece apart by a pack of dogs, I doubt I, or anyone in that situation, would wax so fondly over it by saying that it rocks.


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Old Apr 16, 2007, 02:56 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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I have plenty of foxes on my own land, two species of them, red fox and gray fox. They stealing my chickens once on while. I can put up with it to the point. One-two per year is fine. However, sometimes I have to restore my control and kill one or two foxes, too. There are very few hunters interested in foxes in Virginia. Overpopulation causes spreading of sarcoptic mange and foxes die ugly slow death. My dogs occasionally chase gray fox to tree, where I shoot it. Shooting one-three foxes per year is enough to keep them at bay, but it is not enough to reduce their population level. A few times, my dogs got sarcoptic mange from them. I got rid off these mites without vet's assistance.
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Old Apr 16, 2007, 11:03 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Well said. The thing is, hunters have no intention of making their 'sport' fair. If so, then there would be an almost 50/50 ratio of kills on both sides of the playing field.

The should call it what it really is, "killing for fun."
I don't know I always thought hunting deer with a spear would be pretty cool.
I'd have to be fast, because the deer is faster, and the deer could maul me since I'd be on the ground all ancient hunter style. That sounds fair to me.


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:45 am   #27 (permalink) (top)
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I don't know I always thought hunting deer with a spear would be pretty cool.
I'd have to be fast, because the deer is faster, and the deer could maul me since I'd be on the ground all ancient hunter style. That sounds fair to me.
A deer is really skitish. In all probability they would spook and dart before you even got within lethal throwing distance of them. And, I still don`t think a deer goring you is a significant risk. In most cases they prefer flight than fight.

Now, why don`t you try buffalo or grizzly or polar bear hunting with a spear? That would increase your chances greatly to experience the rush of adrenaline at the serious risk of a mauling. That sounds almost fair to me -- and you would be all ancient like and have a really good tale to tell. Imagine, a sure bet confrontation of might against bravery and skill, compared to a story of deer running away before you can even get close enough -- and after all that tramping through the woods getting bit by mosquitos and bugs and what not. The latter is very anti-clamatic.


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 01:11 am   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Well said. The thing is, hunters have no intention of making their 'sport' fair. If so, then there would be an almost 50/50 ratio of kills on both sides of the playing field.

The should call it what it really is, "killing for fun."
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A deer is really skitish. In all probability they would spook and dart before you even got within lethal throwing distance of them. And, I still don`t think a deer goring you is a significant risk. In most cases they prefer flight than fight.

Now, why don`t you try buffalo or grizzly or polar bear hunting with a spear? That would increase your chances greatly to experience the rush of adrenaline at the serious risk of a mauling. That sounds almost fair to me -- and you would be all ancient like and have a really good tale to tell. Imagine, a sure bet confrontation of might against bravery and skill, compared to a story of deer running away before you can even get close enough -- and after all that tramping through the woods getting bit by mosquitos and bugs and what not. The latter is very anti-clamatic.
I live in Michigan so it has to be a deer. What if I was naked and tracking it for weeks. I think thats pretty awesome, and if it was a buck, during mating season, maybe then it'd maul me. Also I won't chuck the spear, I'll face it in battle.

Maybe I could find a wolverine


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 01:19 am   #29 (permalink) (top)
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lol. Good luck naked hunter. Don`t get fucked by a buck.

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Old Apr 17, 2007, 01:28 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Dude, you can't tell me thats not awesome, running around the woods naked with a spear hunting a deer to do battle with.
I do this I think I'll become the manliest man on the planet, except for that guy that cut his own arm off after being trapped under a rock.


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 01:38 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Dude, you can't tell me thats not awesome, running around the woods naked with a spear hunting a deer to do battle with.
That buck doesn`t want to do battle with you. It just wants to find a doe to impregnate, and you are going to be out there getting in his way with your butt naked ass asking for it up the bum.

Dude, what is going to be awesome is: the doctor`s expression when he looks at your silly ass and asks how you got poison ivey all over your cock and why you have deer sperm oozing out your ass. Tell him how manly you are then as you wheeze the explanation out of a punctured lung from a goring.

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I do this I think I'll become the manliest man on the planet, except for that guy that cut his own arm off after being trapped under a rock.
He is one manly son of a bitch. Perhaps instead of going through all the naked running around in the woods crap, you could kick a car jack out from a wheel and get trapped under a car and cut some body part off to escape. Cutting yourself free with a welding blow torch would cement your image as manly -- even more so than the other guy. And you`d get on Letterman.


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 01:40 am   #32 (permalink) (top)
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You know the whole tracking a deer naked with a spear is a lot cooler when I say it. You must be doing something wrong dude.


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 01:59 am   #33 (permalink) (top)
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You know the whole tracking a deer naked with a spear is a lot cooler when I say it. You must be doing something wrong dude.
Yeah, like being anchored to reality.

Hey, while you`re out there you may want to look for Leftcider. He is planning on tunneling. Perhaps you could hunt him by tracking him and coming across his den and poking your spear in it to skew him. Hunting the most intelligent animal of all would make you manly.
"Dude, what are you doing in the woods naked?"
"Hunting."
"With what?"
"This spear."
"What are you hunting?"
"Something that will make me manly."
"Hey, you look like a weirdo. Stay away from me and my den."
Leftcider runs into den. Naked Duke is hot on his trail and follows him to his den.
"Hey stop poking that thing in here. Ouch. Fuck man. You are killing me. I'm not an animal -- I'm a tunneler. Owe fuck man. I`m serious. Stop poking tha.... gurgle gurgle gurgle."


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 02:04 am   #34 (permalink) (top)
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When I hunt deer, I need good meat. I use a powerful and precise rifle. One shot and the deer is mine. No tracking is needed. My dog does tracking very well. Some injured deer wandering on my land. I get it. More meat for the dogs. If you hunt, kill for sure, do not waste. However, fox and other small game hunting with sighthounds is my favorite hunting.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 02:05 am   #35 (permalink) (top)
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LMAO

Wow thats quite the mental image.


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 02:24 am   #36 (permalink) (top)
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Then you latch the carcass of your manly trophy to the hood of your car for the drive home and suddenly Leftcider awakes and you both find yourself in the world of...


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Old Apr 17, 2007, 02:40 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not so sure I'd call Lullaby a manly trophy, he referred to himself as a hot young male in another thread. I'm not so sure what passes as a hot young male these days is ancient hunter gatherer mainly.
(No offense Lullaby)


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