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| Absolutely Superb Posts: 774 | 17 year old sentenced to ten years, due to sex offender laws Quote:
Edit: Sorry for wasting your time with a previous semi-biased/slanted article, yet again(See the "snuggle in plane" thread). The media really needs to pick up the slack here, because I'm tired of withdrawing my opinions due to me (rather idiotically, it now appears)blindly trusting news authorities. So, a new direction for this thread: do you buy into the victim's cries of rape, and do you feel that the young men involved should be sentenced for taking advantage of her in an intoxicated state? Do you feel this "sex offender" charge is warranted and/or just? | |
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| Knower of Nothing Posts: 1,772 | Sick and evil. Disturbing. I hate girls like that. That is one of the worst things a whore can do is go to police because they got too damn drunk and regret having sex with a guy. She should be the one in prison for 10 years. DISGUSTING. As for them taking advantage of her in an intoxicated state? Bull...they were probably just as drunk as she was, so you can't pin the responsibility on the guy. It's like having a car crash where both drivers are drunk and you only send one of them to jail for dui and make him pay for all the costs. especially when it comes to oral sex which takes a good degree of consciousness. |
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![]() Ragnar Danneskjöld Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,865 | Quote:
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The argument that she was too intoxicated to consent is bullshit. Since when were drunk people suddenly not responsible for their actions? If I kill someone in a drunken state, can I claim that I wasn't responsible for it because I was drunk at the time? Hell no. Quote:
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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Interesting article. The original charge was not substantiated. The second charge is where the convicition lies. The 15 year old girl giving head. The teen being prosecuted was poorly represented if these charges and their penalties were a surprise as the article notes. I hope the lawyer was cheap, because he was lousy. Ten years of prison is too much for a BJ by a cute teen honey. Maybe there is grounds for appeal. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams |
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| Shifting Paradigms Location: Flowery Branch, GA Posts: 3,102 | If I was on the Jury, I would not have been willing to convict him. I am not willing to obey unjust laws. 10 years for a bj by a 15-year-old girl who is only 2 years younger is ludicrous. Do all things with love. |
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| It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,468 | This is clearly a consequence of a jury not being informed of the right to jury nullification. Jury Nullification: History, questions and answers about nullification, links "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams - |
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| Shifting Paradigms Location: Flowery Branch, GA Posts: 3,102 | Good article. I believe jurors should be told about their power to nullify. Citizen power is the most important check on abuses by government. This is clearly an abuse by government. Do all things with love. |
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| Ch Latour 61 Location: Maryland Posts: 638 | Lat time I was on jury day they tried to prevent potential jurors who might opt for jury nullification from serving. I think jury nullification is a good idea, but the presiding judge in the case for which I was a potential juror acted like jury nullification was leprosy or worse. I was not picked for the jury on that trial. There are unfortunately a lot of unjust sentences. Perhaps the prosecutor also is at fault for being overly-zealous in this case, which prosecutors often are. Economic Left/Right -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian –6.97 |
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![]() Mass'Debator Posts: 4,723 | There's your screwed up laws for ya, lol. It'd make much more sense if they separated teens... ie: 13-19 into a catagory on their own.... being teens anyways, and separate them from 20 and up-year olds. How are teenagers suppose to know what a relationship is if they can't date people near their ages without being tossed in jail? And especially in situations where guys tend to get either blackmailed or just plain charged and sent to jail for something that was agreed on by both parties and freely willing, this kind of crap is crap..... by the girl wanting the power to do so..... that's a piss off. Quote:
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| Retired Posts: 7,312 | The 15 year old did not charge them with rape - they did that to themselves by videotaping sex with a minor. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,817 | Quote:
The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Tumblr Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) | |
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| Retired Posts: 7,312 | i think everyone needs to separate the 17 year old drunk girl who accused one guy of rape, and the 15 year old sober girl who didn't accuse anyone, but they are being prosecuted due to her age. We don't know whether the 17 year old consented to sex, but from the information given it looks like the 15 year old did. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,817 | The 3 Strikes law has caused similar nonsensical situations, as has the Patriot Act. Absolute and extreme laws are often too vague and too broad to stand for long. Eventually the exceptions (in the form of reversals, over-turned verdicts, etc.) show the weakness of the law. Life is not so predictable that you can write a single rule to cover all the possibilities. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Tumblr Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) |
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