mandatory RFID chips for homeless proposed

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by castille, Did anyone notice the title of Bob's "source"? www.global-elite.org (WOW very objective source)

Yeah, a UPI story. Pretty far out there.

If they ever put one of those things in me or my kids (if, God forbid, I ever have any) it will be over my and several of their dead bodies.

Yes, you read that right. I will kill to keep that stuff out of me.

And the only way they'll succeed in implanting me is if they kill me first.

Which would make it pretty pointless.

And this objection does have its downsides, unfortunately. I'd love to get a couple tats, but it just doesn't sit right...

[Pooeypants]

Inorder to have perfect law and Justice we must lose our freedom, kind of ironic isn't it?

[Catch 22]

Originally posted by Pooeypants, Inorder to have perfect law and Justice we must lose our freedom, kind of ironic isn't it?

I'll opt for almost non existant crime thorugh anti poverty, education and rehabilitation programs.

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4792554.stm

So in the EU it will be debated, but would you know it one is secured into your uniform, vehicle, passport?

So much easier for them keep track of us

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Arawn-ap-Hywel So much easier for them keep track of us

Or die trying, eh?

[bishop]

Quote by: PatrickHenry It's the "Mark of the Beast," IMO. Soon to be implemented worldwide... Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

that was my first thought as well.

[phoenix_fire]

Yeah. They already implant them in pets. Convicts, children and the elderly are not far behind. Then everyone. Not me, though. No way I'm letting them tag me.

It seems benevolent enough on the outside. If you are kidnapped, you can be located. It would cut down drastically on identity theft. It would help track down criminals. But the more you think about it, the more it resembles a dystopic future scenario.

[Osborn F Enready]

I only have a few things to say, and it isn't even my own words, though I stand behind them today as much as they did then:


“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
-Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776.

“If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom, and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too.”
-W. Somerset Maugham

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”
-Patrick Henry, from “Against the Federal Constitution”, 1788-Jun-5

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Or die trying, eh?

Milton I honestly don't think we'd know if they choose to "watch" us.
Anything we purchase new can be traced, unless we use cash. These can be easily secreted within new articals, cars, ipods, shoes or added to seals of documents we might need licences passes etc; and we just won't know we have been tagged or who is watching us.

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

Quote by: phoenix_fire Yeah. They already implant them in pets. Convicts, children and the elderly are not far behind. Then everyone. Not me, though. No way I'm letting them tag me. It seems benevolent enough on the outside. If you are kidnapped, you can be located. It would cut down drastically on identity theft. It would help track down criminals. But the more you think about it, the more it resembles a dystopic future scenario.

Phoenix Yes indeed benevolent dyspotism the fullest invasion of privacy possible.

[PatrickHenry]

Some videos on the RFID chips implanted in humans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNmO-...elated&search=
It's so that medical providers can help you :rolleyes:
Check out the other related videos...

[Mia]

The original link on this topic is no longer active. I fail to see the beneift to this for the people who want it.

The Department of Health and Human Services doesn't exactly run people down to give them help. People have to jump through hoops to get it.

So what do they stand to gain by this?

When I adopted a dog from the city shelter, I was told she had to have the implant, or I couldn't adopt her.

I'm proably too suspicious here, I mean it is a dog, but I thought that was strange too.

I understand that if she were lost and her collar lost or removed, a vet could identify her, notify me, and her health history would be there automatically.

These are surely good points to consider. But required or I can't adopt her?

Again I am wondering how this affects them in any way.

[PatrickHenry]

Mia, it turns out the original story was a fake. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/homeless.asp

But the potential and current applications are real and increasing...

Anybody else wanna talk abut this topic?

[Mia]

Quote by: PatrickHenry Anybody else wanna talk abut this topic?

What does that men?

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Mia What does that men?

Huh?

[Osborn F Enready]

How many will refuse to accept a RFID if the government employs force in making them mandatory for all people?

Did I mention how the U.N. has plans to disarm the world?

Heh, no, don't worry about a modern day global conspiracy, couldn't happen........(sarcasm)

[CoffeeSaint]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready How many will refuse to accept a RFID if the government employs force in making them mandatory for all people? Did I mention how the U.N. has plans to disarm the world? Heh, no, don't worry about a modern day global conspiracy, couldn't happen........(sarcasm)

If the world were honestly disarmed, it would be a happy day.
For RFID chips, why? Several people have commented on how we are being constantly tracked now, and if they sought to watch us closer, we porobably would not know about it, or would simply accept it, as it would be cloaked in a benefit we would actually want. Surgical implants, for instance. We all might fight to keep from getting one of those wild animal ear tags (though I think it would be quite the fashion statement) but what about a pacemaker? Surgical shunt/stint whatever it's called? Steel pins in a shattered bone? Will we all refuse those because they could have a GPS inside?

[Osborn F Enready]

I will.

[CoffeeSaint]

I won't.