How gay are you?

[Fonceai]

Quote by: Ish Gay men are more free and open with their emotions than straight men, I believe.

Not always.

It's just that straight guys like me are accused of being gay when we try to be free and open about our emotions.

You should have seen the looks I got when I left the theater, crying, at the end of Titanic.

[Jack]

It's just that straight guys like me are accused of being gay when we try to be free and open about our emotions.

Release your inner gay, Fonceai. Give it wings, let it flyyyyy.

It's both funny and sad when a straight guy who happens to be comfortable with his emotions gets suspected of gayness by others, some who even should know better.

Take heart. I can't tell you the number of times I've been mistaken for straight. It's depressing. More so if that happens in bed.

[Fonceai]

Quote by: Ish Take heart. I can't tell you the number of times I've been mistaken for straight. It's depressing. More so if that happens in bed.

OH HOLY CHRIST BAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

Quote by: Ish It's both funny and sad when a straight guy who happens to be comfortable with his emotions gets suspected of gayness by others, some who even should know better.

It's not so much that I don't like being called gay, it's that I don't like that people presume that a "real man" wouldn't be open.

I've been accused of being everything from effeminate, to gay, to in-the-closet. Someone even once asked my wife if she was a cover wife.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Isherwood <tangential question> Why does it seem that when straight men think about gay men, all they can dwell on is the sex act itself? They never seem to grasp that some gay relationships are far more emotional than sexual.

I understand 100% that it's not just sex... but when it comes to being straight, thinking about being gay always boils back down to the final act of sex, for me anyways.

I generally don't think of other men as being emotional, due to knowing how a straight man thinks, generally logical and pig headed.

I can talk to a guy and shoot the crap with their problems, but other then that... meh

[kpow]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary I can call whatever I want disgusting, It's my opinion.

i find it funny you seem here to have assumed i was refering to YOU...when i was only speaking from experience with my straight male friends.
i just wanted a serious perspective on this from someone who holds the opinion...so thanks to Praxius who actaully gave me his reasoning
from my perspective (long word so sorry if it spelt wrong) a lesbian who isnt into penitration (cant even speel it :eek: ) in any form (just adding that in...not sure why actually but it might help you understand where im coming from:confused: or not i dont know) there are somethings about CLOSED MINDED straigh people i cant get my head around
(i want to point out at this point....i said CLOSED MINDED STRAIGHT PEOPLE i am not painting you ALL with the same brush...i understand some of you are very open minded about such things....)

1. how can you see a woman arse as diffrent from a mans when they do the same thing....other than the fact ladies bums look nicer...i may have just ansered my own question there.....slightly

2.how can a straight man be willing to DO something to a woman, when they find the thought of being on the reciving end so repulsive, only answer i can see is total LACK of respect for women....(im tlaking aobut bum sex here BTW )

3. how can a straight woman find men attractive, engage in anal sex with men and CLAIM to enjoy it, yet at the same time not understand why a man might feel the same way......:confused:

4. i really odnt understnad it when the HOMOPHOBs come out (not pun intended ) with the totally BULL----, NATURE arguement.
1-most/all animals display some for of homosexual type behaviour
2-(and this is the obiouse one as most people know this FACT) humans are ONE of the ONLY animals who have sex for pleasure.....so, even if you dont KNOW number 1.....you must see that even if we were one of the only animals who disoplayed homosexual behaviour the 'its not natural' arguement doesnt make sense....(sorry if that made nosense....it is 1am and im tired)
also
3-this one im not so sure on...if its not natural for two men to have sex why is a mans G-spot up his arse????
and WHERE DO GAY PEOPLE COME FROM if its not natural:eek: LOL

i cant even rember why i was writing this now......need sleep....darn pirates!

[Gods_Mercenary]

Can you give me some links to those animal homosexuals?

You answered most of your own questions (lack of respect for women, etc.) although perhaps it's just recieving it from a man they find repulsive.

As to where Gays come from, I guess you could just say you're pretending, not that I've seen proof either way.

[kpow]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary Can you give me some links to those animal homosexuals? You answered most of your own questions (lack of respect for women, etc.) although perhaps it's just recieving it from a man they find repulsive. As to where Gays come from, I guess you could just say you're pretending, not that I've seen proof either way.

if you want links use google or wikipeadia....theres lots of stuff about. if i was at home i might be able to get you a link to the site i used for my coursework....but atm im up T north so i cant.....so either wait or use google

You answered most of your own questions (lack of respect for women, etc.) although perhaps it's just recieving it from a man they find repulsive.

really? do you think they like the idea of a woman doing them with a dildo then?...now all i need is such a person to ask....danm im the only one in the room LOL

im not pertending to be gay...i am attracted to other women....i want them to COME OVER HERE AND SIT ON MY FACE LOL
why would anyone pretend to be gay...good question.........i think!

[Gods_Mercenary]

There's still lack of respect for women, that's true either way.

And you can't prove you're not pretending, at least until they find a gay gene, so to speak.

[Epistemologist]

Quote by: kpow why would anyone pretend to be gay...good question.........i think!

Maybe some trauma or it's just like in the movies when some guy has to pretend to be gay in order to get closer to ladies or to avoid a marriage to someone he doesn't like.

[kpow]

why do I have to be the one who proves im not pretending....

perhaps we are all bisexual and depending on which sex we have stronger like for we 'pretend' to be herto or homo sexual.....

intresting thought....

[G. Adams]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary There's still lack of respect for women, that's true either way. And you can't prove you're not pretending, at least until they find a gay gene, so to speak.

10% of rams are gay. We know this because they won't screw the sheep, just each other. This is a bit of a bugger for farmers, because a gay ram is lost profit. He's not even good for eating by that age. Because of this, scientists have developed a way of changing the feotuses hormone balances to make them straight. Apparantly some in the gay community are up in arms about this "curing" process.

The fact that it can be altered by scientists demonstrates it is biological. The fact that a change in the hormone balance makes the rams straight show it is a hormone thing, a physical process, that determines whether an animal, including humans, are gay.

And that doesn't mean being gay in humans is unnatural, it means they are different. Someone predisposed to being aggressive or passive because of hormones doesn't make them unnatural, it makes them different.

[kpow]

how do you make a hormoan....


dont pay her.....

LOL i think thats one of them jokes you HAVE to say out loud.....LOL

[Praxius]

Well see, I'm straight and I still don't like anal even with a girl... no matter how much you clean that area, it's still an anus and it's been passing crap your entire life.... There's a nice little hole right beside there that's made just right for that kind of thing on a girl..... so that's where I stand.

I don't like the idea of the A-Spot... I'm good with my orgasms as they are now.

About women who like anal sex, it's an alternative sensation for them, besides vaginal, it stimulates the other side of the vagina and can produce orgasm.

For the male, the anus tends to have more grip then the vagina, therefore if a straight man tries it, they may enjoy it.

I don't... why?..... see reason above.

[kpow]

Quote by: Praxius Well see, I'm straight and I still don't like anal even with a girl... no matter how much you clean that area, it's still an anus and it's been passing crap your entire life.... There's a nice little hole right beside there that's made just right for that kind of thing on a girl..... so that's where I stand.

this is a P.O.V i understand....not liking the whole anal sex idea with women or men....but i dont get how someone can say its ok to do it with a woman but repulsive to do the same with a man.....you see where im coming from right?
or am i not making sense...???:confused:

i generally find it hard to understand why people are homophobic....or racist for that matter....maybe it because im gay or maybe just because im not.....whichever i can understand some peoples p.o.v

[Gods_Mercenary]

The ancients, like the Greeks and romans, didn't ragard a man who had a male slave for a sexual purpose as gay, he still had a wife and some female slaves for the same purpose. Everyone was hetero, some just liked to dabble in men.

[Praxius]

Kpow, I understand where your coming from...... the fact that they are doing it to a woman and it causes the sensations as posted above, might be reason enough.... maybe they just got that trigger turned off in their heads when it comes to men.

As I said before, it could have to do with just not finding a man as a sexual figure...... aka, as I see them.... a mule with their wang stuck in a bear trap. Of course that's not saying much for myself either, but I don't have to look at myself.

[ThisNameIsTaken]

I love silly online tests...
It says; I am 73% gay! 'Your quite open-minded between the sheets and just a little bit butch when out on the streets'.

And i guess i can be honest here; i am a 5 on your scale. Completely open to either gender for just fun or a relationship. Although i am in a long term monogomous straight relationship so no girl only fun in a long while.

about animal sexuality; I'v witnessed female rats humping each other; some think it is a dominance thing but for my girls it seemed to me that they would try to ease their cagemates agitation from being in heat and not being able to act upon it (my only male rat was neutered). All the girls would take part and any girl would hump the one in heat and the dominant rat (a female) would take part in the same manner as all the submisive girls. I don't know if people would consider that lesbian sex but the girl in heat seemed to enjoy it and it made for a more stress free cage so i was happy for them.

[kpow]

Quote by: Praxius Kpow, I understand where your coming from...... the fact that they are doing it to a woman and it causes the sensations as posted above, might be reason enough.... maybe they just got that trigger turned off in their heads when it comes to men. As I said before, it could have to do with just not finding a man as a sexual figure...... aka, as I see them.... a mule with their wang stuck in a bear trap. Of course that's not saying much for myself either, but I don't have to look at myself.

or is it all about hegemonic masculinity.....
Heterosexual mens sexuality

danm my love of sociology

[kpow]

Quote by: ThisNameIsTaken I love silly online tests... It says; I am 73% gay! 'Your quite open-minded between the sheets and just a little bit butch when out on the streets'. And i guess i can be honest here; i am a 5 on your scale. Completely open to either gender for just fun or a relationship. Although i am in a long term monogomous straight relationship so no girl only fun in a long while. about animal sexuality; I'v witnessed female rats humping each other; some think it is a dominance thing but for my girls it seemed to me that they would try to ease their cagemates agitation from being in heat and not being able to act upon it (my only male rat was neutered). All the girls would take part and any girl would hump the one in heat and the dominant rat (a female) would take part in the same manner as all the submisive girls. I don't know if people would consider that lesbian sex but the girl in heat seemed to enjoy it and it made for a more stress free cage so i was happy for them.

my friend has lesbian rats....
he also has a budge and a cockatil that have sex with each other:eek:

[Captain Chaos]

Quote by: kpow my friend has lesbian rats.... he also has a budge and a cockatil that have sex with each other:eek:

Mixing up genders is fine, but I don't know about this cross species thing! My god, next thing you know we will have humans mating with Klingons!

OK... kidding...

As long as both birds are consenting adults, I am OK with it.