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Old Oct 10, 2006, 09:19 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Outing Gay Republicans

Mike Rogers appears on The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News

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Mike Rogers, blogACTIVE and PageOneQ.com editor and publisher, appeared Monday on FOX News' The O'Reilly Factor with host Bill O'Reilly. They discussed the effects the growing Mark Foley scandal, speculation around which O'Reilly described as "partisan nonsense."

"I fear that the homosexual community in America is going to be damaged by this whole thing," O'Reilly stated, before asking Rogers if he agreed. "I think that America is able to tell the difference between gay men and closeted gay men who make unhealthy psychological decisions," replied Rogers.

Rogers told O'Reilly that he will be releasing more names of closeted members of the Senate and House before election day. O'Reilly advised Rogers to "get [them] on the issues," to which Rogers replied, "I am... and their hypocrisy."
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 10:42 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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So you support the forced outing of gay and bi-sexual members of Congress? Even knowing the severe physological trauma that can and often does cause.
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 11:34 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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The Kloseted KKKweers in Congress can just grow up and act like the MEN and WOMEN they are. We keep silent about gays/lesbians who aren't working against the Human Rights of other gays, our silence is a PRIVLIDGE the LGBT community gives them, not a RIGHT these closeted folks can abuse, without SEVERE PENALTIES.

Shield772 unless you are gay, lesbian, or bi you haven't experienced living a lie, I've gone through that, and came out on the other side with DIGNITY, SELF WORTH, COMMUNITY, so which one of us has a better handle on this situation, you or me?

btw. Mark Rogers has kept his promise of outing Congressional staff two are listed on Blogactive today, one in Hastert's staff and another who recently resigned from Brown-Waite (R-FL) staff.
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 11:38 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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So you support the forced outing of gay and bi-sexual members of Congress? Even knowing the severe physological trauma that can and often does cause.
If those people are using gay bashing as away to cover their tracks, they should be outed. If they tell the public during the day that gays are bad and we need an amendment to protect the country from them and then hypocritically live the life at night, out 'em.

Very few gays would have a problem with staying in the closet for self protection. Almost all of them have a problem with closeted gays throwing other gays into the fire to protect your own selfish ends. One behavior may be a self protective neurotic adjustment that harms the individual more in the end, but it harms only the person making the choice. Closeted gays who bash others and actively work against the interest of the community to preserve power and prestige for themselves are leeches who deserve to be taken down for their own hipocracy.


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Old Oct 10, 2006, 11:41 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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our silence is a PRIVLIDGE the LGBT community gives them, not a RIGHT these closeted folks can abuse, without SEVERE PENALTIES.

Wow, that is an interesting perspective that would ordinarily be lost on most people I would bet.


...of course, it also shows a disturbing side of the potential for abuse of that "power".
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 11:50 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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The power of outing someone, is given by the closeted person, at anytime they have the power to be honest about their lives. I wonder how many of the POWERFUL & RICH LGBT members of the Austin 12, who Scott McClellan, Ken Mehlman, and Karl Rove court so sucessfully for contributions, will have their closet doors kicked off the hinges?

Another factor concerned with closeted queers, STRAIGHT people can blackmail them for oh......let's say $100,000.00 for "campaign contributions"
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 12:04 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Certainly gay politicians who engage speak against homosexuality should be outed.

The question is, should all gay republicans be outed? By being a part of the republican party, a politician is lending support to the anti-gay movement. After all, it is the republican party that has spearheaded the backlash against gay marriage.

Hypocrisy within our leadership, for both parties, is intolerable.


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Old Oct 10, 2006, 03:35 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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The Kloseted KKKweers in Congress can just grow up and act like the MEN and WOMEN they are. We keep silent about gays/lesbians who aren't working against the Human Rights of other gays, our silence is a PRIVLIDGE the LGBT community gives them, not a RIGHT these closeted folks can abuse, without SEVERE PENALTIES.

Shield772 unless you are gay, lesbian, or bi you haven't experienced living a lie, I've gone through that, and came out on the other side with DIGNITY, SELF WORTH, COMMUNITY, so which one of us has a better handle on this situation, you or me?

btw. Mark Rogers has kept his promise of outing Congressional staff two are listed on Blogactive today, one in Hastert's staff and another who recently resigned from Brown-Waite (R-FL) staff.
What happened to your mantra that what happens sexually between consenting adults is nobody's business? Remember that post you wrote underbear?


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Old Oct 10, 2006, 04:31 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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When another queer threatens my civil liberties, there is no holds bar approach. If these closet cases don't want anyone to know about them they have the choice NOT to show up at our clubs, our restaurants, our cruises, date openly gay/lesbians.See the only ones who don't know they are queers were dim bulbs in the Christian Reich, we all know, even the sophisticated Republicans know, just Tony Perkins, James Dobson, and Alan Keyes didn't know, and unless they get a pet queer with gay-dar to point out the queers to them, they will remain clueless. Paging Ken Mehlman, Paging Ken Mehlman......

Brien what you don't know is how many queers we don't out, and likely never will, in their cases what they do sexually IS NO ONE'S BUSINESS, it's only when a line is crossed by these closet cases which endangers others, that they forfeit the right to concealment.
btw. I didn't name these men, I mentioned their connections to Congress, I could have posted their names at this site.
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 04:49 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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When another queer threatens my civil liberties, there is no holds bar approach. If these closet cases don't want anyone to know about them they have the choice NOT to show up at our clubs, our restaurants, our cruises, date openly gay/lesbians.See the only ones who don't know they are queers were dim bulbs in the Christian Reich, we all know, even the sophisticated Republicans know, just Tony Perkins, James Dobson, and Alan Keyes didn't know, and unless they get a pet queer with gay-dar to point out the queers to them, they will remain clueless. Paging Ken Mehlman, Paging Ken Mehlman......

Brien what you don't know is how many queers we don't out, and likely never will, in their cases what they do sexually IS NO ONE'S BUSINESS, it's only when a line is crossed by these closet cases which endangers others, that they forfeit the right to concealment.
btw. I didn't name these men, I mentioned their connections to Congress, I could have posted their names at this site.
But why do you care about anyone else's sexuality but your own and your partner's? I don't care if someone is into beastiality as long as they don't hurt another.

If people in power are trying to hurt you, then I would agree to "out" them as hypocrites, but their sexuality is a private matter and should not be held up for ridicule.


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Old Oct 10, 2006, 04:53 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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their sexuality is their hypocricy.................what part of that escapes you?
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Old Oct 10, 2006, 05:00 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Shield772 unless you are gay, lesbian, or bi you haven't experienced living a lie, I've gone through that, and came out on the other side with DIGNITY, SELF WORTH, COMMUNITY, so which one of us has a better handle on this situation, you or me?
Seeing as Sheild772 IS gay and has made no secret of that fact whilst posting here, perhaps you should back up in making sweeping assumptions. :rolleyes:


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Old Oct 10, 2006, 05:40 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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I said UNLESS, I obviously didn't know this poster's sexual orientation, even knowing this poster is open using a nickname, doesn't automaticly mean in the real world they are closeted or not.
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Old Oct 11, 2006, 12:20 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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The Kloseted KKKweers in Congress can just grow up and act like the MEN and WOMEN they are. We keep silent about gays/lesbians who aren't working against the Human Rights of other gays, our silence is a PRIVLIDGE the LGBT community gives them, not a RIGHT these closeted folks can abuse, without SEVERE PENALTIES.

Shield772 unless you are gay, lesbian, or bi you haven't experienced living a lie, I've gone through that, and came out on the other side with DIGNITY, SELF WORTH, COMMUNITY, so which one of us has a better handle on this situation, you or me?

btw. Mark Rogers has kept his promise of outing Congressional staff two are listed on Blogactive today, one in Hastert's staff and another who recently resigned from Brown-Waite (R-FL) staff.
Ok maybe you missed it, I am Bi. I know what it's like I was in the Law Enforcement community and closeted for self preservation, I KNOW. TY
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Outing anyone for any reason bothers me and I don't support it. Using sexual orientation as a weapon for either good or ill still treats it like a weapon. Orientation is as un-chosen as hair color or ethnicity. To treat it any differently is to undermine our own equality.
What Foley did offends society on many levels. Is anyone saying it would have been better if he'd been after young girls?
If a gay leader votes or enacts legislation oppressive of gays, how is that any different than other politicians who frequently screw their own constituants in favor of lobbiests and big green. If we dispise them for this, we should despise their poor leadership, not their orientation.
Those who have offended no one should be left in their closets if that's where they want to be. If by doing so they're being dishonest to their spouses, that's between them.


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Old Oct 11, 2006, 02:21 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Outing anyone for any reason bothers me and I don't support it. Using sexual orientation as a weapon for either good or ill still treats it like a weapon. Orientation is as un-chosen as hair color or ethnicity. To treat it any differently is to undermine our own equality.
What Foley did offends society on many levels. Is anyone saying it would have been better if he'd been after young girls?
If a gay leader votes or enacts legislation oppressive of gays, how is that any different than other politicians who frequently screw their own constituants in favor of lobbiests and big green. If we dispise them for this, we should despise their poor leadership, not their orientation.
Those who have offended no one should be left in their closets if that's where they want to be. If by doing so they're being dishonest to their spouses, that's between them.
How are closeted turn coat queer politicians different than the run of the mill bought by lobbiest politicians. Because the run of the mill bought politicians aren't presenting themselves as something they aren't, the Kloset Kases are.
It's not their orientation that is the weapon it's the dishonesty, hypocricy, and secrecy that are the weapons, the exact same thing could be done to a pro-family values married straight politician EXPOSED when he's found having an adulterous affair.
If outing really was a weapon, it would be used on every closeted queer,(whether they have done anything against the community or NOT), which you know it isn't.
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Old Oct 11, 2006, 02:07 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Blogactive has outed a White House staff secretary today:)

HAPPY DRAG THE ANTI-GAY MEN out of the closet kicking and screaming DAY.
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Old Oct 11, 2006, 02:10 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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How are closeted turn coat queer politicians different than the run of the mill bought by lobbiest politicians. Because the run of the mill bought politicians aren't presenting themselves as something they aren't, the Kloset Kases are.
It's not their orientation that is the weapon it's the dishonesty, hypocricy, and secrecy that are the weapons, the exact same thing could be done to a pro-family values married straight politician EXPOSED when he's found having an adulterous affair.
If outing really was a weapon, it would be used on every closeted queer,(whether they have done anything against the community or NOT), which you know it isn't.
No it's only used on Gay Republicans, just as any person of color is a Republican they are attacked as uncle toms, oreos, house n#$&%s, etc..etc....
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Is being a gay Republican similar to being a black member of the KKK?


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Old Oct 11, 2006, 04:12 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Is being a gay Republican similar to being a black member of the KKK?
No, what about being a christian democrat? or a straight one?
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