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Old Dec 9, 2005, 01:59 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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I wear a tee shirt that says "Welcome To America GO HOME" I have some sympathy for the wet backs, but damned little. They are ruled by a heartless oligarchy. They need to set things right there instead of bringing their diseases here to the US. If they want to take their country away from the tyrants owning Mexico I'll donate to the arms purchases they's need to do so.

As for foreigners or foreign corporations owning any property in the US. I hate the concept.

I firmly believe in America for Americans. We have enough problems of our own. We do not need any foreigners bringing us theirs.

The Monroe Doctrine sings beautiful music in my heart.

BTW I'd like to see all property owned by multinational corporations confiscated by the state.
Most of Latin America has been trying to resolve their problems, yet the US keeps helping to maintain the oligarchies power. 50 years of the US propping up dictators and assassinating democratically elected reformists has meant most of the South American populations are tired. Tired of fighting against the combined might of their own oppressors and their paymasters in Washington. The best option left for them is to move to the US, to have the chances that the US tries so hard to stop them from having at home.

As for governments booting MNC's out of their countries, they have tried it again and again and everytime they do, the US organises a coup. The only country Latin American country that has succesfully ousted the MNC's without being crushed by the US shortly after is Cuba, and look at the treatment they have had since.

Perhaps if you did what you could to stop your own government fucking up the rest of the US, which it is doing under the Monroe doctrine, maybe they wouldn't feel the need to come to the US.


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Old Dec 10, 2005, 03:24 am   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Most of Latin America has been trying to resolve their problems, yet the US keeps helping to maintain the oligarchies power. 50 years of the US propping up dictators and assassinating democratically elected reformists has meant most of the South American populations are tired. Tired of fighting against the combined might of their own oppressors and their paymasters in Washington. The best option left for them is to move to the US, to have the chances that the US tries so hard to stop them from having at home.

As for governments booting MNC's out of their countries, they have tried it again and again and everytime they do, the US organises a coup. The only country Latin American country that has succesfully ousted the MNC's without being crushed by the US shortly after is Cuba, and look at the treatment they have had since.

Perhaps if you did what you could to stop your own government fucking up the rest of the US, which it is doing under the Monroe doctrine, maybe they wouldn't feel the need to come to the US.

Maybe you ought to tell us more about the land where the sun has set so we can learn more about what not to do? It appears that all you have left is Wales and Ireland who don't think too much of you either, huh? Oops, I forgot the wee Scottish!

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Old Dec 10, 2005, 01:29 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe you ought to tell us more about the land where the sun has set so we can learn more about what not to do? It appears that all you have left is Wales and Ireland who don't think too much of you either, huh? Oops, I forgot the wee Scottish!
This isn't some nationalist rant, I cannot defend the actions of the United Kingdom. We were joint first for arseholes of the 19th century (France is equal), and were damned high up there in the 20th century. We betrayed the middle east after world war one, we screwed up Palestine along with the US, we were part of the Suez Crisis, we lopped off heads in Malaya, we planned to assassinate Qadaffi etc

What I was trying to do is pointing out that the US is making the situation worse for South America, despite the latinos trying so hard to fight for a better life. If you stopped, perhaps life would improve and they wouldn't keep emmigrating.


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Old Dec 10, 2005, 02:23 pm   #44 (permalink) (top)
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Zealot, address the topic. You have been warned previously about off-topic little comments like this before - so please, quit attacking other posters and debate.

Do not respond to me within this thread. PM myself or Sean if you have any questions.


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Old Dec 10, 2005, 05:49 pm   #45 (permalink) (top)
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I don't see any problem with Mexicans living and working in the US. They keep the wage rate down.
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