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May 2, 2006, 03:51 pm
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 Brb, France  Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,883 | Are paedophiles evil? Do you think it is acceptable to be sexually attracted to childeren? Do we need to understand paedophiles rather than condemn them? Should it be accepted that sexual attraction towards a child is evil? Or is paedophillia simply wrong? Discuss... |
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May 2, 2006, 03:56 pm
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 623 | Uuuhh: I think there are some things in life that need to remain taboo for the masses. This is one of them. I welcome psychiatrists and psychologists to attempt to understand this behavior because it is their job after all; but I do not welcome the layperson and the population at large to start playing "relativism" with such issues. There's no need to ponder over whether having sex with a child might not be such an evil thing after all. YES, IT IS AN EVIL THING AND LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMPETITION BRINGS THE BEST IN PRODUCTS AND THE WORST IN RELATIONSHIPS. |
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May 2, 2006, 04:04 pm
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May 2, 2006, 04:13 pm
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| Iceberg Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,691 | Quote:
If you are trolling for pedophiles here, you best go somewhere else because you won't find them here amoungst the regulars. You are wasting your time with this subject because we all think that pedophelia is not only wrong, but immoral, illegal, and a crime. If you are interested in our opinions, do the research in the archives. It is all there. Brien the Iceberg If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. M.T. | |
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May 2, 2006, 04:18 pm
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| Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,883 | Quote:
Obviously, Going out and raping a child is wrong. But if a person wakes up one morning to find he has these urges, does he automatically become evil in your view? | |
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May 2, 2006, 04:29 pm
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| Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,883 | Damn, that was a hostile response if ever I saw one. Perhaps I didn't make myself entirely clear. I am not suggesting for one minute that it is ok to physically have sex with childeren. This is obviously very wrong and very illegal. What I meant by paedophilia was the actual urge to have sex with childeren, not the act itself. Is the urge itself evil and if so, why? |
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May 2, 2006, 04:36 pm
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| 9/11: Inside Job  Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Acting on urges is for animals. Human beings have the ability to reason, and must restrain our urges if they don't comply with laws. Child abuse laws are made for the good of all people. Children are not able to consent to sex with adults. Their capacity to understand the issue isn't developed enough and that is why we have "age of consent" laws. Pedophilia is child abuse. Forced sex is rape. Both need severe punishment. Who cares about evil? You could say that pedophilia isn't evil if you want. (I find that reasoning flawed) But you won't find a judge very sympathetic to that view. Wait until a child is of an age to consent if you fantasize about children, or you will find All of civilized society against you. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams |
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May 2, 2006, 04:40 pm
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| Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,883 | Quote:
But perhaps your righteous indignation clouded your senses. | |
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May 2, 2006, 04:42 pm
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| BANNED Posts: 5,021 | Since children can't reproduce, there is something wrong with your biology if you're aroused by children. I guess that argument works against homosexuality as well. As far as society goes. Society can only allow and disallow actions arbitrarily by convention. Our society happens to view sex with children as wrong. And thus, it is wrong. Ergo, even if you're aroused by children, you should choose not to act on that urge if you want to be inside society. Last edited by tman_ndsu08; May 2, 2006 at 04:44 pm. |
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May 2, 2006, 05:01 pm
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| Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,883 | Quote:
With regards to the above quote, I completely agree that paedophiles should not act upon these urges. Acting upon such an urge is wrong and should be punished. But is simply having this urge, through no fault of your own, unconditionally evil and should it warrant punishment and ostracism from society? | |
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May 2, 2006, 08:44 pm
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| ???? Location: Novi. Michigan Posts: 2,163 | Quote:
At the same time, I would rather have someone aroused by children and keep it in their head rather than someone acting upon it. | |
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May 2, 2006, 09:06 pm
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| Igneous Magma  Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 373 | Interestingly enough, what constitutes pedophilia changes from culture to culture. For thousands of years, when a girl started her period around 10 years of age, she was married off. Pedophilia? Ancient roman men regularly had sex with boys, which was considered good for the development of the children. Pedophilia? I would be very interested in seeing a computer simulation or something like that play out in which sex with minors was practiced commonly... it seems to me that the most damaging aspect of the whole situation is the social stigma. If it were common place and acceptable for one's parents or others to have sexual contact with a child throughout his or her life, the experience would probably rank up there with being forced to eat gross vegitables to most people. Of course that's hypothetical, and doesn't consider disease or pregnancy... and sex with children in our society, of course, is deeply damaging and I am IN NO WAY defending it. |
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May 2, 2006, 09:56 pm
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| Retired  Posts: 7,312 | Quote:
I would say the person is sick. I wouldn't say evil if the person isn't acting on it. We cannot control how we feel but we can control what we do. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali | |
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May 2, 2006, 11:26 pm
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  formerly Isherwood  Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,006 | Good point, Rave. Social morays have indeed changed over time. When most people only lived until their mid-20's or so, marraige at a very early age was not unusual. Now that our lifetimes have been extended and our period of youth likewise extended, we have changed our attitudes. For instance: "King Tutankhamen led a terrible and lonely life. His father died at age 25 and he married his sister at the age of 9. But when he turned 19 he died and was thought to be killed by a man that wanted the throne." The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) |
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May 3, 2006, 12:47 am
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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Quote:
"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams | |
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