Kant would say that what we precieve is a representation of the object. Also, that humans do not know the object-in-itself, but rather a perception of the object based on what experience tells us.
Example: I precieve that this is a ball, because gravity makes it drop, it is round, and after hitting the ground, it bouces back up. However, the object-in-itself has not been described or known
But, something really happened. The different perceptions do not change what happened. There are a number of reasons for differeng perceptions, frame of reference isssues, experential issues and much more. But, when you get through all of the perceiving and if you can account for all of those reasons for differing perceptions of what happened, what really happened is reality.Quote by: shield772
It all goes back to the three blind men and the elephant. "An elephant is a snake", "And elephant is a wall", "An elephant is a rope." They all had different perceptions and, in their limited ways they all were right. But, the reality of an elephant is completely different, and much more, than their limited perceptions of an elephant. And, in reality, they each taking actions based on their perceptions, wouldn't have changed the reality of the elephant.
Reality is that which is real, that which exists, that which happens. Reality doesn't change except through well defined rules. We don't know all of those rules, yet, but we learn more and more every day. That's what science is all about.
Perceptions change, fluctuate, vary and are refined. Perceptions change, reality doesn't.
Keith
The mind is not a mirror of nature. Ethics is not grounded. You are on your own
Please expound.
Keith
That's your perception, how do you know it's reality?
Big surprise, Einstein would tell you. Every person was in a different location, with a unique view, and or observation, thus making thier stories unique.
I'm not implying that I think perception does not distort reality, but there are other things to consider than the simplistic police mentality approach. (The wisdom that you speak of comes to us form the people who bring us coerced confessions, and wrongful prosecutions.) Just because you have witnesses, even eyewitnesses, you can not always necesarrily deduce the truth.
How can anyone know?
Well, there are certain measurable realities. (Refer back to post #8 by Kieth Hamburger.)
No.
There is only one reality. The one we are all a peice of.
The fact that each of us perceives it differently is irrelevent to the fact that our reality has one state of existance at a time.
if someone looks at an elephant and sees a snake (because they are looking at it's long trunk) then did they see reality? Or course they saw the elephant - from the front angle, another could look at it's rear end and have a different discription. But they both saw the Elephant.
But where they differ is in the name by which they called it. Names are not realities. They are just words which exist for communication purposes but the name is not the object or thing being seen as something real. (reality).
So it is simply a matter for everyone to know the correct name for anything in reality form any angle of perception. Kant or no Kant.
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