Evolutionary Basis for Homosexuality

[lsbskins1]

Evolution works to further species survival and does not only affect procreation. Where did you pick up the concept that it is only concerned with procreation? If that were the case, whales and dolphins would have never moved from the land to the water because what on earth does a nostril migrating to the top of your head and becoming a blow-hole have to do with procreation? You are wrong and it is that simple.

[Prometheus]

Evolution is only concerned with procreation.

It's nice that the homo's are helping grandpa teach the young'ins how to properly tie the hook on to the fishing line, but that won't help mom have more kids.

Isn't fishing a survival skill? You can't get laid if you've croaked 'cause you couldn't fish.

[tman_ndsu08]

Evolution works to further species survival

And the mechanism for this futhering is?

Magic dragons laying golden eggs?


You can't pass on genes unless you procreate. And the more you procreate, the better the chances for survival are.

It's that simple.

[tman_ndsu08]

Isn't fishing a survival skill? You can't get laid if you've croaked 'cause you couldn't fish.

Fishing is not a survival skill.

Hunting is. Gathering is.

Both of which required no teaching in caveman days.

[italiangm]

Evolution is only concerned with procreation.

Exactly. And homosexuals are created by the act of procreation.

It's nice that the homo's are helping grandpa teach the young'ins how to properly tie the hook on to the fishing line, but that won't help mom have more kids.

Actually, the likelihood of producing a male homosexual increases with each male birth to the same mother, regardless of father. Mom's genetics obviously controls the "switch".

One theory states the increase in homosexual expression occurs because a pre-programmed shift in hormones is triggered by the stress of taking care of a household with multiple offspring. It's not surprising that homosexual male offspring frequently help with the care of siblings and the household in general.

If the stress theory is indeed true, I suspect there would be fewer homosexuals if dad was more supportive.

[tman_ndsu08]

Christ, why the hell is the anti-fag radar so damn sensitive on this site?!

I'm not against fags!!

They're just as human as anyone else.


For crying out loud.

[italiangm]

We're not against breeders, either. Just keep doing your job.

[lsbskins1]

But if that were the case, then there would be one prototype for each species and they(the members of that species) would be indistinguisable from each other. Species survivial also requires diversity to allow for sudden changes in enviroment (if there were no diversity certain climate changes or germ intoductions could wipe out the entire species). Evolution is not a theory only of what genetic traits are passed that define the limits of a species, it also addresses what genetic mutations may enhance survivability through low occurance that allows for that necessary diversity. It works both ways. Again, you are wrong in your assertion and demonstate a lack of understanding of the subject on which you are expounding.

[tman_ndsu08]

Species survivial also requires diversity to allow for sudden changes in enviroment

Species don't just decide to change themselves, that's not how it happens.

Random genetic mutations occur all the time. If such a situation arrises that one of these random changes just happens to allow that person to survive a bad event on earth that kills most other people off, then there is a chance that if that person breeds they will pass that gene on to the next generation, allowing them to survive.

That's what evolution is.

If there are no events, then there is no need for change.


We've advanced to a point now that our technology will simply take care of any bad events and allow a wide spectrum of genes to survive, not just the ones who cantake advantage of the change.

[lsbskins1]

Species don't just decide to change themselves, that's not how it happens

Never said it was a decision to change, simply that change from the norm can be as advantagous in evolutionary terms as a change in the norm.

[tman_ndsu08]

So you're saying that there is going to be some bad event that only lets homo's live?

[belverron]

One theory states the increase in homosexual expression occurs because a pre-programmed shift in hormones is triggered by the stress of taking care of a household with multiple offspring. It's not surprising that homosexual male offspring frequently help with the care of siblings and the household in general.

If the stress theory is indeed true, I suspect there would be fewer homosexuals if dad was more supportive.

You know... my mom had high blood pressure and bloating during her pregnancy and had to have a Caesarian section. I wonder....