All right the Civil War is over and the South you need to get over yourselves.

[dilligras]

Oh, and another point, slavery is OVER!!

Really? I think the last I heard. there are currently over 30 million slaves in the world.

Or maybe you consider them to be indentured servants?

The Emancipation Proclamation--which freed only those slaves in rebel states, not the north--was preceded by nine months by Lincoln's Emancipation Act of DC.........which paid each slave's master a sum of $300 for said slave's freedom, and furthermore, offered each slave up to $100 if he would emigrate to another country.

Question: Why was this treatment not afforded to slaveowners and their charges in the South?

As to the "hillbillies" crack, perhaps you would like to know that NC had more colleges in the 1830's than did Massachusetts.

And the tax situation of that day clearly was an abuse by the North upon the South..........who paid 80% of the revenues collected in the ten years prior to the war, but recieved benefit of federal spending of only 20%.

But, perhaps that is considered fair by socialist elites and crooks of similar cloth.

[GeorgeSmiley]

The South was a fuedal society. At the top were the plantation owners. Although they had not lived there for that long, they considered themselves an airistocracy. The majority of the white population were yeomen farmers. Then came the "po' white trash". There was tremendous economic and social equality among whites, and it might be assumed that this would lead to conflict. However, there was little because any white man could spit in a black man's face. If you were eating clay for a living and looked down upon by other whites, you could at least look down on the slaves. This, this, is DIRECTLY counter to the American dream. It is almost laughable to hear traitors (let's not split straws here, that's what they were) and sympathizers saying that the Confederacy was fighting for freedom! The freedom to OPPRESS is not FREEDOM!

[dilligras]

The South was a fuedal society. At the top were the plantation owners. Although they had not lived there for that long, they considered themselves an airistocracy. The majority of the white population were yeomen farmers. Then came the "po' white trash". There was tremendous economic and social equality among whites, and it might be assumed that this would lead to conflict. However, there was little because any white man could spit in a black man's face. If you were eating clay for a living and looked down upon by other whites, you could at least look down on the slaves. This, this, is DIRECTLY counter to the American dream. It is almost laughable to hear traitors (let's not split straws here, that's what they were) and sympathizers saying that the Confederacy was fighting for freedom! The freedom to OPPRESS is not FREEDOM!

In just a few sentences, you have oversimplified history until it reflects exactly what the self-righteous white elitists of the left would have us believe about the Civil War-which was less about slavery than it was the unfair taxation of one part of the country (agriculturally based economy) by the other (industrially/financially based economy) using political power to achieve their nefarious ends.

There were large populations of freed blacks in the South, decades before the War of Northern Aggression. Some of them had even accumulated great wealth, and even owned slaves themselves. Some were even instrumental in the Texas Revolution against Mexico.

Most of the enslavement of black men in the 19th century was by other black men, a fact that seems to have conveniently escaped the race-baiters in the North, some of whom have apparently survived to the 21st century........or perhaps their guilt over causing the atrocity which was the War Between the States has forced them to rewrite history in order to transfer their shame onto their victims, therby compounding the perpetration into perpetuity.

It's high time you Yankee bastards (and I mean that in the kindest sense of the word) owned up to your perfidy and stop the devisive race-baiting bullshit that does nothing whatsoever to bring folks together in the "harmony" that lefty wing-nuts so readily espouse but are so seldom able to realize.

[GeorgeSmiley]

I you think my arguements are "perfidy" and "race-baiting" you may as well back up your claims with some evidence. For my part, I will list mine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins...nse_of_slavery

http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/debow3.html

http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/debow.html

http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/mercury.html
These documents (among many others) show that slavery was the biggest issue behind Southern militancy.

http://afgen.com/slave1.html

and finally, read these http://showcase.netins.net/web/creat...es/liberty.htm

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it."-Abe Lincoln

[Orange]

Whatever the arguements were, they were settled by the war. The North won, for better or worse, and there's no changing it. Incidentally, that's my opinion on Israel as well.

[Logjam]

The South was a fuedal society. At the top were the plantation owners. Although they had not lived there for that long, they considered themselves an airistocracy. The majority of the white population were yeomen farmers. Then came the "po' white trash". There was tremendous economic and social equality among whites, and it might be assumed that this would lead to conflict. However, there was little because any white man could spit in a black man's face. If you were eating clay for a living and looked down upon by other whites, you could at least look down on the slaves. This, this, is DIRECTLY counter to the American dream. It is almost laughable to hear traitors (let's not split straws here, that's what they were) and sympathizers saying that the Confederacy was fighting for freedom! The freedom to OPPRESS is not FREEDOM!

I think that slavery was much different than it is depicted in most sources. There's a new book "Misconceptions of American Slavery", by Jones; that one cannot buy in most large book stores. It's been censored.

Many slaves were treated well, and many were happy. Some were treated terribly and were very unhappy. Most slave owners, I believe treated their slaves well. "Slave" by the way was rarely used. Slaves were called "field hands" or "servants".

Slave merchants were disliked. A great many slaves were freed by their owners, often upon the owner's death. Eventually it was so common that the Southern states declared death bed manumissions illegal. Many, if not most blacks in the South were freedmen.

Furthermore many slaves were owned by Blacks. Some slave traders were black, some of them were ex-slaves.

Slavery was legal and generally accepted prior to the Civil War. Certainly there was an abolitionist movement on both sides of the Mason Dixon Line, but they were generally rare.

The North did not fight the CW to free the slaves. Rather it fought to keep the nation as one. The Southerners did not fight the war to keep their slaves. They fought it because they were invaded. They did, however; want to keep their "particular institution". The main reason that the Southerners wanted to keep slavery is because they had so much money tied up in slaves. Which was the reason that Jefferson didn't free his slaves when he died. (He only freed four slaves in his lifetime.)

I suggest that you read Freemantle's "Three Months in the Confederate States". Also, "The History of American Slavery 1620 to 1865".