
Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens

Charles Joughin, one of the last men to be pulled out of the water after the Titanic sank, did it by being an inveterate sinner who did not give a single fuck about anything. When he realized the lifeboats were full and there was no escape he avoided panicking and falling in prematurely and instead did the sensible thing: he sat down with the ship's unguarded supply of hard liquor and began drinking heavily.
After drunkenly tossing some furniture over the side for those who had fallen to cling to, he calmly stood in place upon the deck and waited for the ship to finish sinking. The truly enormous quantity of alcohol in his system kept his core body temperature elevated and provided him with the fuel necessary to survive three hours in the north Atlantic, making him one of only a handful of people to do so - and most of the rest had their own vices, such as morbid obesity that acted as insulation. Joughin died of natural causes many years later, and was widely known as both a hero and an inveterate alcoholic.
Moral of the story: God saves, but Satan makes you a floater instead of a sinker.
The more you complain, the less I care about your problems.

More than a "good part of humanity", more likely most of humanity because most people aren't Christians. Moreover, there is some dispute among Christians about who gets everlasting life. Apparently some Christians aren't real Christians in the eyes of Jesus and God.
At any rate, I'll join you in Hell. I'm not sure I could put up with living for eternity with deities like God and Jesus who so cruelly condemn innocent people for no other reason than they fail to believe in them and worship them. Living forever with the likes of God and Jesus would be a greater Hell, in my view, than having the integrity and honor to choose everlasting damnation.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd - Voltaire

I dont believe you are real and it seems that I am the only one to see through you. Can We have a pic? See Mine? " smiling"
Peace be with you,
Sincerely,
Affluence (God fearing christian).

Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens

We use the terminology but we really dont Fear God. The Bible says fear " Nothing " but the Lord your God. See, its teaching us to be confident, The word fear actually doestn translate here. It means to bow your head in homage and respect and notice God (setting aside your pride.)
Also Peter you can think of it as a child fearing a spanking. If your child fearing the spanking keeps him from running in the street then let him fear the spanking for the alternative could be much worse. True?
Sincerely,
Affluence (I believe in God)

So fear means respect in the bible? Why did the most intelligent being in the universe write a book for the common man that needs so much interpretation by experts?
Check, the end justifies the means. Got it.Also Peter you can think of it as a child fearing a spanking. If your child fearing the spanking keeps him from running in the street then let him fear the spanking for the alternative could be much worse. True?
Sincerely,Sincerely,
Affluence (I believe in God)
Peter (I believe in Leprechauns... go ahead, prove they don't exist!)
Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens

Don't you think there are less violent, equally effective ways to teach a child not to run into the street? Doesn't it seem that a god could find a more productive way to encourage humans to be good than the methods employed by the god of Abraham in the Bible?If your child fearing the spanking keeps him from running in the street then let him fear the spanking for the alternative could be much worse.
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Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens

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