This is not another Zimmerman thread. Please, debate the facts of that event in another thread.
This is not another Zimmerman thread. Please, debate the facts of that event in another thread.
The more you complain, the less I care about your problems.
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You are pointlessly quibbling about degree of responsibility. Do you claim that as a member of this society you have zero responsibility, however indirectly, for what other members of this society do?
Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens
It can be a lame argument either way. There are countless "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenarios. Personally, I feel that if higher education was free over here, more people would be educated and probably less likely to snap.
Oh, wait...this guy was highly intelligent, and his social background may have had little to do with his actions. Sometimes crazy people just happen, and then crazy things happen. That's what makes everything so complicated.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
Again, we need to clarify whether you mean "blame" or "responsibility".
I have some limited responsibility to every single person in the country... namely to respect their rights.
If someone does something wrong and it is outside my responsibility or I fulfilled my responsibility to that individual, I have ZERO blame.
It isn't a question of amount of degree of blame. It is zero. If someone says I am to some degree "responsible" for what happened in Colorado I will disagree. I did nothing wrong in that is relevant to this situation and have zero blame... the same for most Americans.
Serious as a heart attack...
...and twice as deadly.
Well, it is pretty likely that he fell victim to portrayals of gunmen as "badass" in Western pop culture. Though I'm not a psychologist or anything like that..
The idea of, and the glorification of, the "badass" extends far beyond this ambiguous notion of "Western pop-culture".
All cultures share stories of a rouge anti-hero. Whether the character uses gun, a sword or gods hand, all cultures place violent characters upon a pedestal within their lore.
No doubt any respectable psychologist will be clamoring to study this Holmes fellow.
I feel people are being quite distracted by the tie between his actions and this movie, Batman. Believe it or not, I doubt that the character of the Joker compelled Holmes to act in such a manner. He merely used the character to give some design to his desire.
I'm sure there was a genesis to his plot. It began as an idea to cause mayhem and evolved into his own fantastic story. He just took guidance from what he knew, what was around him, what was part of his life. The stories of 'Batman' were obviously, to some degree, a part of his life.
This sick, delusional individual would have committed an atrocious act no matter what "pop-culture" he was keen on. Were he not in tune with Batman, he would likely have committed to his act of mass murder at a college campus, a free outdoor concert or a Burger King. Perhaps without the inspiration of the identity of the Joker, he would have worn a gorilla mask and a pink tutu, maybe he would've dressed as Abraham Lincoln.
Dear Optimist, Pessimist and Realist, while you guys were arguing about the glass of water, I drank it! ~ Sincerely, the Opportunist.
Our death-rate by gunshot has been reduced by strict laws from 96 to 39 per annum, whereas yours is about 9,000, or so I believe. We are still a pretty barbarous society - our chance of being murdered is no better than a quarter of yours whereas in Japan it is a thirteenth - but it is interesting how, since it has obviously nothing to do with insane rules designed for the merchant of death , your climate has such powerful effects.
I would think we should point our attention toward not how people are killing each other, but rather, why are people killing each other.
Dear Optimist, Pessimist and Realist, while you guys were arguing about the glass of water, I drank it! ~ Sincerely, the Opportunist.
Maybe I should let it drop, but why not consider both equally? It's not an either/or thing.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
Sirhan Sirhan. Does he remember shooting Bobby Kennedy? Does Holmes claim no memory of his atrocity?
How or why people kill is not interesting. Why aren't there more killings?
If the terrain and the map do not agree, follow the terrain.
When motherhood becomes the fruit of a deep yearning, not the result of ignorance or accident, its children will become a new race.
Clearly since they kill so many more of one another, for being Americans. Or perhaps it really has something to do with believing you are cowboys and arming nutters to the teeth?
You're not grasping at straws, are you? What filters are you looking thru to come up with those ludicrous conclusions... ...again?
If the terrain and the map do not agree, follow the terrain.
When motherhood becomes the fruit of a deep yearning, not the result of ignorance or accident, its children will become a new race.
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