Arizona's "Victory" in the SCOTUS Immigration Ruling

[The Decider]

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer called this week's 5-3 SCOTUS immigration ruling a "victory" for Arizona.

Really now.

OVERTURNED: criminalizing one’s presence in Arizona without documentation. Federal jurisdiction only.

OVERTURNED: criminalizing working or looking for work without legal status. Federal jurisdiction only.

OVERTURNED: permitting police to arrest people without a warrant if there’s suspicion that they’ve committed a deportable crime. Federal jurisdiction only.

UPHELD (kind of, sort of): permitting police to check a person’s immigration papers during lawful detainments BUT leaving open the possibility of revisiting its constitutionality after the goes into effect. (Translation: legal challenges to every single immigration paper request on 14th amendment grounds--and another SCOTUS ruling in the future).

UPDATE: The Department of Homeland Security announced later Monday that it was revoking its so-called 287(g) agreements with Arizona law enforcement agencies — a partnership with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that gave local police the power to enforce immigration laws.

As one reader at Talking Points Memo wisely observed: "So if a understand this, the political impact is to gut the law enough to make it nearly useless, while leaving enough of it in place to energize Hispanics to get out and vote against Republicans."

I hope the tide has turned against the Arizona fanatics and their brethren nationwide and toward what the country really needs, and what most Hispanic-Americans want: comprehensive immigration reform.

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[Zeebadee]

"comprehensive immigration reform. " A pseudonym for "unlimited immigration".

[The Decider]

"comprehensive immigration reform. " A pseudonym for "unlimited immigration".

"Unlimited immigration" = a pseudonym for Nativist propaganda.

[Zeebadee]

"Unlimited immigration" = a pseudonym for Nativist propaganda.

Propaganda?? So how am I in error??

[Angry Citizen]

"comprehensive immigration reform. " A pseudonym for "unlimited immigration".

It's about time, too. Hopefully we as a species can start to move beyond the notion that people of other countries are somehow less valuable than those in one's own.

[Zeebadee]

It's about time, too. Hopefully we as a species can start to move beyond the notion that people of other countries are somehow less valuable than those in one's own.

At least you're being honest. The liars continue to call it "comprehensive immigration reform".

[The Decider]

Propaganda?? So how am I in error??

You didn't make an error. You intentionally mischaracterized the term, something you do in every single immigration debate. "Comprehensive" means just that--not just security fences, barking dogs, flood lights, and drunken Arizona yahoos patrolling the desert for "wetbacks" but a recognition that America needs (and wants) foreign labor in certain industries. The laws should reflect both the supply and demand side of the immigration issue. And the human side.

And they will. Hispanic-American voters in Arizona and elsewhere have finally woken up like the minority groups before them and are exercising their power. The Nativist fanatics who have infected every single immigration debate since the founding of our nation will again lose at the ballot box. Voter ID laws and other forms of intimidation will not stop them. Eventually, the yahoo Nativists will face the political reality and compromise on immigration reform and lots of other issues important to Hispanic Americans. The Republican Party's current struggle with its own immigration stance bears this out.

But first things first. The SCOTUS ruling takes immigration out of Arizona's hands where it never belonged in the first place. The issue is federal and national and subject to bargaining between the Democratic and Republican parties in Washington D.C. Long term, Republicans stonewall on comprehensive immigration reform at their own peril.

[Senor Hoint]

At least you're being honest. The liars continue to call it "comprehensive immigration reform".

Yes, your worst fear--a country where Hispanics outnumber whites a hundred to one--is soon to be realized.

[grandpa]

Yes, your worst fear--a country where Hispanics outnumber whites
a hundred to one--is soon to be realized.

The real surprising thing will be, when all is said and done, how few of these "illegal"-bashers are going to bawl their eyes out. They love this intentionally made-up "conflict". It gives them a sense of purpose (while, intentionally or otherwise, giving rise to hate groups).

Grandpa h.

[Senor Hoint]

The really funny part is a lot of them are probably members of ethnic or cultural groups that were once on the receiving end of the same bullshit.

[Dan74]

The notion of borders is so ridiculous and nationalistic. Hell, the notion of nations is ridiculous. It's about time that we moved on.