Most of the christians I talk to shrug it off as "oh, that was the old testament" as if somehow god is a new and different god that wasnt the same as the god of abraham.
By the way, finder, you arent doing christians any favors by spouting stupid shit like the above.
So you agree? Most Christian don't support the morals Cephus decietfully listed?
That's what truth and honor are referred to by atheists these days?
However, modern Christian homophobia is something that only a hermit could miss. They are not only extant but really quite obnoxious. How is what they do justified? What makes them Christian? You can ask them and they'll explain it better than I can.
See, this is a representative sample of the problem. Fundies are hard to fully trust because they are often utterly incapable of criticizing their own beliefs or acknowledging faults.
The more you complain, the less I care about your problems.
To not believe homosexual behavior is morally acceptable is not the same as homophobia is it? I for one am not afraid of homosexuals or of becoming one. I just don't think it's right for me to be a part of it. Those that spread hate towards homosexuals...I would agree with you, "what makes them Christian?" Using bible verses for nefarious reasons doesn't mean scripture promotes it.However, modern Christian homophobia is something that only a hermit could miss. They are not only extant but really quite obnoxious. How is what they do justified? What makes them Christian? You can ask them and they'll explain it better than I can.
That could be said of anyone. It's the misrepresentations of our beliefs we do not accept. Faults, we all have, but anyone who allows faults that are nonexistent to be attributed to them without first trying to put things in perspective is more untrustworthy in my book. If someone will sell themselves out for the sake of appeasement who know what they'll see you out for.See, this is a representative sample of the problem. Fundies are hard to fully trust because they are often utterly incapable of criticizing their own beliefs or acknowledging faults.
Saving the empovershed by empoverishing their counterparts will empoverish the whole.
If you feel it justified to trust someone who gets their values from a 2000 year old book of murder, genocide, rape, and torture, you be my guest. Ill stay away from war crimes and those who think they are somehow good.
Oh, and why would you assume that someone who doesnt believe would have no morals? Where in your ass, exactly, did you pull that gem from?
This kind of attitude would have led people in the 1980s to invest all their money with Jim Bakker, a "decent, moral" Christian, who wound up in prison for fraud, rather than putting their money behind Bill Gates, a non-believer who went on to found Microsoft and make his early investors millionaires. It doesn't seem to me that judging a person by whether or not they have imaginary friends is a very good indicator of character.I'd trust them before I'd trust you because I can take an easy look at their values and know what they re going to do, but you on the other hand well I suppose you'll just do whatever aimlessly with nothing I can see or know to help me determine what you might do in any situation.
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I have never met a single Christian who gets his morals from the bible. They get their morals from society and then interpret the bible in a way that supports those morals. The parts of the bible that disagrees with those morals are ignored.
For instance, stoning disobedient children, adulterers, gays, etc. When was the last time you saw a good old fashioned stoning?