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    I wonder if people would be as pro-baby killing based on race, IQ or sexual orientation (If and when we can detect these things), as they are on gender?


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    Quote Quote by: Darklordabc View Post
    I wonder if people would be as pro-baby killing based on race, IQ or sexual orientation (If and when we can detect these things), as they are on gender?
    Race. Why would you abort a fetus based on race, when presumably the father is of the same race? It seems as if something else is going on here.
    IQ. You can measure the future IQ of a fetus? News to me.
    Sexual orientation. I don't think it's genetic, so go ahead and try.

    As for abortion based on sex (not gender) of the fetus, I don't see why not, as long as you're able to know the sex within the period during which abortion is allowed. It's not the law's duty to interrogate women as to the reason for their abortion.


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    Quote Quote by: Darklordabc View Post
    I wonder if people would be as pro-baby killing based on... IQ
    Ha. The irony here is delicious.

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    It is no more wrong than any other abortion. Abortion is a right of human being established via the Roe- v. Wade USSC . If any aborttion is right, cosmetic abortion must also be protected.

    As a society that understands personal choice is an ideal to be expanded, abortion is an area of personal choice under law.

    Personally I am opposed to abortion and I am opposed to prohibiting people from having abortions. If you are contemplating having an abortion it is your business and yours alone as far as the U.S. is concerned. The idea that a fetus has rights is ridiculous and according to any logical thought processes it is a religious idea which has no business interfering with the secular activities of any government.

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    Quote Quote by: crimethinker
    Race. Why would you abort a fetus based on race, when presumably the father is of the same race? It seems as if something else is going on here.
    What if your wife cheats on you, and you tell the doctor to only abort if its a half-caste?
    IQ. You can measure the future IQ of a fetus? News to me.
    The Chinese test children genetics for signs of IQ, soon they will for fetuses.
    Sexual orientation. I don't think it's genetic, so go ahead and try.
    I think your missing the point.
    Quote Quote by: Hermenutic
    It is no more wrong than any other abortion. Abortion is a right of human being established via the Roe- v. Wade USSC . If any aborttion is right, cosmetic abortion must also be protected.
    As a society that understands personal choice is an ideal to be expanded, abortion is an area of personal choice under law.
    If you give people the option to abort gay babies, wont that be the end of gay people? Would straight people choose to have gay babies?


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    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    Wow. I just fell of the bike again and need better instructions. Could you re-phrase that, thanks.
    "I’m sure the effects of abortion would be, and could be, the same, maybe even more on the unwilling Father if he knows. This change would….and can only make the outcome worse by doubling the known effect." ~ Trojan_Ripper


    There is a personal level and an extended level of involvement in abortion decisions. A legal mandate disallowing abortions on the basis of somehow claiming affects that come of an unknown to the father abortion seems preposterous to me.

    On the other hand if knowing of an abortion from a wife or friend's leaving the decision up to you can, like any decision, continually be second guessed and dwelt upon. Effects can be felt from the inability to be able to change the past and are not unique to abortions. Still not good enough to make abortions illegal, nor good enough reason to intrude inquiries upon the mother as to the reasons for legal abortions.

    Better yet minorwork....In my scenario I would understand what you are talking about. I'm not being a smart-ass but if I'm "sure" of something then I have most likely have verified it.
    I had hoped personal experience not the verification you were talking about.

    There are scores of research and documentation on (PAS) or Post Abortion Syndrome with differing viewpoints….and that should be expected. As far as this thread is concerned… I would believe that a Mother and Father who are using abortion for gender selection would probably not suffer from these complications because of the “culling the herd” mentality…. so to speak. That being said, “I would also hope that parents would not suffer from their decision on abortion for things such as rape, and health reasons”.
    And I hope that those who stop on the way to the hospital when told to go there for indications of trouble with the unborn but stop on the way to pick up a gun and ammo, do not suffer complications a year down the road when their child is diagnosed with cerebral palsy. But those parents will for the rest of their lives.

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    Are you requesting the definition of filth?
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    Filth?


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    Are you requesting the definition of filth?
    Please, and how the definition can apply to a nation.

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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Filth

    "3. moral impurity, corruption, or obscenity. "

    I basically said that people of this country are filth because the not only kill babies but actually have the audacity to ask if it should be legal to kill them based on sex. Filth.

    Saving the empovershed by empoverishing their counterparts will empoverish the whole.

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    Quote Quote by: ironeagle View Post
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Filth

    "3. moral impurity, corruption, or obscenity. "

    I basically said that people of this country are filth because the not only kill babies but actually have the audacity to ask if it should be legal to kill them based on sex. Filth.
    I don't get it. What's the problem with helping out the next generation however best you can? It's what you're doing isn't it?

    If the terrain and the map do not agree, follow the terrain.

    When motherhood becomes the fruit of a deep yearning, not the result of ignorance or accident, its children will become a new race.

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