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    Molten Ash
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    You can, of course refuse to answer the question... :rolleyes:

    But more to the point, we are talking about morality- not how morality may lead to unwanted results- eg witch hunts, crusades, stonings, or in this case, murder, etc.

    If you are a Christian, the morality applies to you as much as the Kantian version- only now you answer to an "outside authority" if you DO lie, which theoretically could see you in hell for all eternity- a little added incentive to the mere "commandment". The Christian is also expected NOT to lie, and receive a "Get out of hell free" card for it, by becoming a martyr...

    The difference between the two scenarios are what we are considering: what you(mankind) needs to live a moral life. Of course, there are no real differences.

    Morality applies to all- the axe-man is immoral, and therefore not our consideration here. Besides, if you KNOW the man is an axe murderer, ignoring his question and considering what should be the moral way to deal with him seems the more appropriate rational and immediate action...

    Being moral does not make one vulnerable any more than anybody else- or is anybody suggesting we humans cannot live moral lives because of our circumstances? "Thou shalt not kill" gets twisted in so many ways to allow capital punishment, war, effective policing- not to mention abortion and euthanasia, suicide, etc.

    The scenario in Kantian and religious senses both require ALL mankind to follow the moral high road.


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    "The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed." (Deuteronomy 28:27)

    "But the hand of the LORD was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them with emerods, [even] Ashdod and the coasts thereof" (I Samuel 5:6)

    "And it was [so], that, after they had carried it about, the hand of the LORD was against the city with a very great destruction: and he smote the men of the city, both small and great, and they had emerods in their secret parts." (I Samuel 5:9)

    <span style='color:blue'>&quot;We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars&quot;...</span>
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    </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (orgaelin,)
    I don&#39;t think the apostles were to blame. And whoever this guy, "Sat Guru Avatar Majtreya" is he is clearly unable to write in a style which is accessible to a western audience. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

    Western, nothin&#39;. I&#39;ve seen grad students in Georgia write this kind of prose.

    &quot;For neither Man nor Angel can discern Hypocrisie,
    The only evil that walks Invisible, except to God&quot;
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    You guys need help. I know a good shrink. 1-800-555-helpmewithmyreligiousbeliefsnow

    Beware all you powers of darkness!
    For the rest of you...Call me Eli.

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    Chicagoastronomer:

    Try: Matthew 5:3-12 and 19:23-35 and Luke 16:11-32

    Elijah: nice comment - how about Mark 9:24 ?

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    Great shrink. Best one as a matter of fact.

    Hey, I just noticed something

    And He answered and told them. "Indeed, Elijah is coming first and restores all things..."

    Mark 9:12a

    Beware all you powers of darkness!
    For the rest of you...Call me Eli.

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