Went to a lecture on how science disproves evolution by a young earth creationist who ended up advocating for Intelligent Design. Round and round he went in front of 75 or so people and finally when questioned began getting into religion. The Intelligent Designer was the God of the Bible and yes, he did admit finally that the world could be no older than 12,000 years old. Finally I got to ask him how he could tell intelligence from non-intelligent and asked just what the hell is intelligence anyway? He thought with all eyes on him and finally said, "No ones asked that before."
We Volcons have a thread somewhere about identifying intelligence. Seemed a person is intelligence by meeting a tuff standard. He/she must agree with me.