Well, I'm over 55 and certainly not a conservative as we know them today. I credit the fact I'm not conservative to not just having a mind but using it as well.If you aren't conservative by the time you're 45, you have no mind."
Well, I'm over 55 and certainly not a conservative as we know them today. I credit the fact I'm not conservative to not just having a mind but using it as well.If you aren't conservative by the time you're 45, you have no mind."
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Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
[John F. Kennedy]
The principal value of debate lies in the development of logical thought processes, and the ability to articulate your positions publicly.
[Senator Dick Clark of Iowa]
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
[Terry Pratchett]
That left-wing policies are preferable by far to right-wing policies. I refer to history.Quote by: wordryder
A man said to the universe:
"Sir, I exist!"
"However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation."
-- Stephen Crane
"Going on the assumption you aren't," said Jack...
using the intelligence I admit you usually display, it might otherwise have been phrased:
"If you aren't..." or "Giving you the benefit of the doubt,..." You really gave me a start, Jack. Thought I was on my way out the door there for a minute.
I think De Tocqueville might have said it a little better: "If you're not a conservative by the time you're 45, wisdom has not gained dominance." Intelligence is one thing, wisdom another and for myself, I realize wisdom is an elusive achievement. But I've taken the first step: I am a conservative!
Do you refer to Obama Care that mandates insurance? Whew!
ObamaCare has many problems. That it is too far left is not one of them. It is, if anything, too far right. Mandating insurance is not a great idea when you do not nationalize the insurance industry.
A man said to the universe:
"Sir, I exist!"
"However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation."
-- Stephen Crane
Ah. You'd prefer to be one of the Queen's subjects.
I don't form my opinions about America, or much of anything else, based on Jay Leno's random sidewalk interviews in L.A.
Well, your home state of Mississippi had an answer to this problem--poll taxes and literacy tests. Both conveniently kept your state's large population of African Americans disenfranchised until the 1960s. Are you a little nostalgic for Jim Crow?
I thought Winston Churchill made this comment about British conservatives who we all know bear little resemblance to their nutty American cousins.
Yes, I really wish Jay would stop doing that. Hurt's my feelings that our government never gets on "ET" so people could be more educated about it.
Since I wasn't around Mississippi then, I have nothing to miss. I notice a lot of people vote in MS, dead people, people in mental institutions, people in prison, sometimes by absentee ballot, then again in person---lots of votin' goin' on around here these days.
I have to admit I gave de Tocqueville credit when it was Churchill who made that brilliant statement. Brilliant because when you think about it, (and this most certainly applied to me) we are closer to the age when our parents raised us to be loving and generous to everyone around us.
Our hearts are open and we haven't gotten abused--at least most of us haven't. As we age, we get so disappointed with lost expectations and can't fathom how much deceit is in the hearts of people we thought we knew. Being conservative doesn't mean being heartless, it means being heartfelt--genuine--saying what you mean and doing what you say you will.
I had a friend come to me one day--wanted to borrow $200. She was a very good friend. Thought I knew her well and believed her when she said she really needed it. Gave it to her without hesitation, even though I knew it would be needed for rent in a week. Later I learned that she gave it to a friend of hers, never mentioning that it was not hers to give. I was disappointed and nevertheless remained her friend, but she is a tried and true liberal to the core and, with her actions, demonstrated what I think of as a typical liberal mind-set today. She couldn't have known for certain that her friend would pay her back and didn't bat an eye over the thought that it was my $200 she was risking.
We watch the politicians go back and forth with their rhetoric. Unfortunately it's we who pay. All we can do is vote for the one who seems nearest what we believe--or stay home.
I'm a liberal, and I'd never do that. I find it offensive, both emotionally and intellectually, that you would generalize people who do such things based on their politics. I think you have a lot of maturing left to do.I had a friend come to me one day--wanted to borrow $200. She was a very good friend. Thought I knew her well and believed her when she said she really needed it. Gave it to her without hesitation. Later I learned that she gave it to a friend of hers, never mentioning that it was not hers to give. I was disappointed and nevertheless remained her friend, but she is a tried and true liberal to the core and demonstrated what I think of as a typical liberal mind-set today.
A man said to the universe:
"Sir, I exist!"
"However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation."
-- Stephen Crane
Churchill also said: The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Quick! What are the issues in the next presidential election and who holds the majority in the House of Reps.?
Then you missed some good times for people such as yourself who wanted to limit voting rights.
Churchill most certainly wasn't talking about the current version of American conservatives. British conservatives have their standards.
Your overgeneralized personal anecdotes really have no value in this (or any) debate.
Personal experience is very valuable and should be added to one's lexicon as it pertains to formulating principles. Gentlemen, I didn't say I based my opinion of liberals on that one incident. Read it again: I said I thought it typified a liberal mind-set.
Stats say that conservatives give more to charity, serve in more charities, give more blood, etc. even in low-end households, who, by percentage give more than the rich. Who Gives and Who Doesn't? - ABC News
Point being that liberals believe government should help people (with everyone's tax dollars), while conservatives believe that people should help people--and do!
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