Morality, its foundation

[Whatssnew]

We have debated morality until the dead horse was beat into dust. I think that this provides a very interesting new spin on the debate.

http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_zak_tr..._oxytocin.html

Think I will have to watch it a few more times. However I am fairly certain this offers allot of accurate insight into the beginnings of moral code.

I have heard it said that Christianity is feminine in nature…would that make it more moral?

[Affluence]

It's an excellent talk. Lets say this is true. Oxytocin produces morality. Thats fine with me. Can we inject it to criminals and they go straight?

[Maryjane]

I have heard it said that Christianity is feminine in nature…would that make it more moral?

Considering all the violence in the bible, exactly how is christianity feminine in nature?

Oxytocin produces morality. Thats fine with me. Can we inject it to criminals and they go straight?

As long as "we" are injecting oxytocin into people who have been convicted of immorality, why not continue down this slippery slope and inject the ones who don't uphold their wedding vows? A divorce would mean a conviction.

[Affluence]

Maryjane I see where your going with this so let's do it like prescription medication as your doctor can prescribe zoloft and ritalind your Priest it Rabbi can prescribe Oxytocin.

We could never force some one to take something to make them moral or otherwise. That would make us immoral for doing so.

[Jack]

Oxytocin produces morality.

Then why does Rush Limbaugh lie so much?

[Whatssnew]

Considering all the violence in the bible, exactly how is christianity feminine in nature?

Only the latter half of the Bible is "Christian," where in there do you see violence? As for the first half its mostly a bunch of be-got him, be-got her, and a long detailed account of history, kinda like a genealogy of the Jewish faith. Aside from the Ten Commandments there is very little that actually directs you to do anything.

[Whatssnew]

Then why does Rush Limbaugh lie so much?

Rush is not a liar. Perhaps you care to show one example of Rush telling a lie. PS, being mearly incorrect does not make him a liar.

Now if you want to talk about liars, there is a den of them that call themselves Congress.

[Maryjane]

your Priest it Rabbi can prescribe Oxytocin

You're OK with non-medical professionals prescribing drugs?

[R.F.]

Isn’t oxytocin excreted from nipple stimulation and sex? I believe its major roles are involved in “climaxing” [or orgasms] and anxiety. I think linking this chemical to morality is kind of loose [at best]. Morality, in spite of common confusion, is not a thing; it is a group of behaviors. These behaviors are not all governed by one chemical in our brain.

If I for instance altered a person’s brain in way that maxed out their oxytocin production, but destroyed their ability to experience empathy, they would likely be very immoral still. The morality circuit is a complex one, one that relies on much more than one neuromodulator to do its work.

[Maryjane]

Only the latter half of the Bible is "Christian," where in there do you see violence? As for the first half its mostly a bunch of be-got him, be-got her, and a long detailed account of history, kinda like a genealogy of the Jewish faith. Aside from the Ten Commandments there is very little that actually directs you to do anything.

So when a christian goes to bible study or church, they disregard the OT tossing out genesis, exodus, leviticus, numbers, deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, etc as christian teachings? Funny, I don't seem to remember it that way when I went to church.

There's a plethora of violence in the NT. Here are but two...



10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


"God so loved the world, that he gave his His only begotten Son."

Jesus didn't die from laughter, you know? He was crucified. I guess you could call it feminine...God aborting his own son.

[Darklordabc]

As long as "we" are injecting oxytocin into people who have been convicted of immorality, why not continue down this slippery slope and inject the ones who don't uphold their wedding vows? A divorce would mean a conviction.

Im no lawyer, but dont we already require some wack-jobs to continue to take medication outside of prison?
Sort of like a bail condition, we will let you go if you take Moralin™ every day.
Whats the alternative for extremly deranged people? We cant allow them to roam freely while at the same time it seems unjust to imprison them forever because of their nature, this medication could be a third option, a cure. Either they accept the cure, or they stay locked up.

We could never force some one to take something to make them moral or otherwise. That would make us immoral for doing so.

We already force convicted people to attent counselling sessions and AA meetings. Isnt this already on the slippery slope of our forcing morality onto criminals? Does it truly make a diffrence if we force some black murder to attend 200 hours of sessions, as opposed to sedating him with drugs?

[Maryjane]

Oxytocin is given to induce labor contractions in pregnant women. It also occurs naturally when a baby is put to breast which facilitates the "let down" reflex when nursing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

This was interesting...

Reducing trust of strangers, and increasing cultural and racial bias.[32]

Then why does Rush Limbaugh lie so much?

Are you thinking of Oxycontin?