Jesus Freaks Line Up....

[saif]

All doctrines of MODERN Christianity are made by Men, including, Trinity, Divine Sonship of Jesus, Divinity of Jesus Christ, Original Sin, and Atonement. Jesus says himself, clearly that he never claimed divinity or identity to God, FOR RELIGIOUS TEXT PROOF, I provide the following:
1) “I do nothing of myself” John 8:28
2) “My Father is greater than I” John 14:28
3) “The Lord our God is one Lord” Mark 12:29
4) “Father, into Thy hands I commend my spirit” Luke 23:46
5) “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no not the angels which are in heaven neither the son, but the Father” Mark 13:32
What other compelling arguments can I display?
God never Sleeps.. Jesus did - Psalm 121:4
Jesus was tempted by the devil for 40 days (Luke 1:1-13) but yet in James 1:13 we find that God cannot be tempted by evil How can Jesus be God then?

I use the scripture because that is what can be found in Thessalonians 5:21 “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” as well as previously stated, “For God is not the author of confusiion” (I cor 14:33)

[Scribbler1]

Saif,
I'm not criticizing your sources or the content of your argument. I understand religion is a tough subject to debate and I CERTAINLY don't want to see long biblical passages quoted here. Much of what is in the Bible is known to most people on both sides of the argument.

My post was simply about the excessive use of one line responses and the often insulting nature of them.
I don't intend to tell you guys how to debate this subject but I do insist on stopping the one liners.

[LDS]

Saif, I think you misunderstand what the Godhead (trinity) is.
They are three distinct beings: http://scriptures.lds.org/acts/7/55#55
http://scriptures.lds.org/matt/3/16-17#17
http://scriptures.lds.org/js_h/1/17#17

Because of time constraints I wont go into it point by point, if you need further :http://scriptures.lds.org/tgg/godhead Also you may wish to find a copy of Religous Truths Definded by Joseph F. Smith

The Book of Mormon, along with the Holy Bible, gives us all the evidence we need of the Authority and Divinity of Jesus Christ. http://scriptures.lds.org/bm/contents

[crayola]

LOL..."and take Fred the Lumberjack into your heart".

Merry Christmas! Enjoy this pagan holiday and all its greedy pretenders of love and good cheer. Have you finished your Christmas shopping? Did you get everyone what they REALLY REALLY wanted?

Yes, believe it or not.. There is a Santa Claus. <SMILE>

[crayola]

It might do well to consider the statement of Christ which puts an end to any Trinitarian doctrine.

"I am sent to none but the lost sheep of the house of Israel". The House of Israel was sons of Jacob and of which held no Trinitarian doctrines. Nor did the House of Israel contain any uncircumcised Gentiles.

There were two houses mentioned in the bible as blessed. One was House of Israel in sons of Jacob. The other was House of Joseph in Egypt. Why was Jesus only sent to House of Israel and not house of Joseph? Why was Jesus not sent to House of Caesar?

Can you tell me if covenant and laws of Jacob's House were also applicable to House of Joseph?

How do you figure that non Israeli's and Egyptians fit into the Biblical scheme of things?

Can you prove the validity of todays Christianity per Jesus' covenant and laws which WAS his traditional doctrine?

[Dadoo]

A quick check through Christian historical footnotes may lead you to the story of Mithra. The obvious similarities and many identical anecdotes of the Christ story may leave one open to the notion that God has many children. Of the ones still currently printed in history and relious tomes, the message is nearly identical. One must not confuse the Story with the Men. It is the connotation of the Christ myth that may be directly experienced. The denotation, as it was just a man, is no more or less than each and all of you. Give the man a break and reach for truth for a change. Jesus' 2nd coming, I feel, is in the heart and mind of those disciplined enough in rationality and comprehension to grasp the nuances of terms like "trinity", "saviour" and other esoteric intangibles, which, are often too fragile and mutable to be objectively analyzed by many sincere people. Again, in sincerity, you are Christ, if you will. If you 'fail', it matters not, as long as intentions are pure. The connotation of trinity is the tertiary supercedent to the parts of the whole. The 1st and 2nd aspects fuse and are thus named the 3rd. The totality of two when captured within a single field, is the third or trinary component of every trinity. (you plus me= we)
I implore you all to seek reason especially when it is not obviated for you. Mystics are mysterious because they do not see the mystery. The paradox of all your questions, SAIF, is that the very answer is their foundation and are borne of it.
How can anything be a fool, a con or a trick? What is a trick to one who sees, but a meager attempt to divert what is, through it's own awareness invincible?
The sword of truth is sheathed so long as one refuses to open the third eye.
The totality of all you sense is the tertiary, and it's sum not it's fractions will help unsheath the sword of truth which is and always has been "you".

[saif]

Resurected from 3 years ago and it still demonstrates the serious faults of hijacked christianity

[lastdaywatchers]

Well I would have you to know that Jesus is coming back and that will put to rest on the beliver being freaks or not

[saif]

Well I would have you to know that Jesus is coming back and that will put to rest on the beliver being freaks or not

I actually agree with you in the fact that he will return! However, you must come to realize that you have been misguided regarding the Man and Messenger Jesus. It is undeniable that the Doctrine of Trinity, Divinity of Jesus, Doctrine of Atonement and Original Sin and the Devine Sonship of Jesus are complete fabrication. You can as well disregard what you have been taught regarding The crucifiction of Jesus! I am happy to see that you have some faith, but faith need not to be blind!

[PatrickHenry]

I actually agree with you in the fact that he will return! However, you must come to realize that you have been misguided regarding the Man and Messenger Jesus. It is undeniable that the Doctrine of Trinity, Divinity of Jesus, Doctrine of Atonement and Original Sin and the Devine Sonship of Jesus are complete fabrication. You can as well disregard what you have been taught regarding The crucifiction of Jesus! I am happy to see that you have some faith, but faith need not to be blind!

Your allegations don't make it so. Have your own little apostasy...see if I care.