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    Quote Quote by: Meleagar View Post
    Anyone trying to convince you that the Republicans are by and large a racist party is trying to deceive you. The historical facts speak for themselves.


    There are racists in both parties, but Democrats are the ones that constantly race-bait and accuse anyone who disagrees with them as being racist. They also work overtime to portray middle America and the south as racists. It seems you have fallen for it.
    There is an awful lot of misinformation and untruth out there about the legacy of the two major political parties and the civil rights movement. Conservatives often like to use slight of hand, insisting that because the early Republican party was stronger in support of civil rights, this means that conservatives have the moral high ground. This is totally untrue.
    Republicans – Moderate and Liberal Republicans supported civil rights. The Republicans who supported civil rights in America were not conservatives of the same ilk as George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They were liberals and moderates, people like former Rhode Island senator Lincoln Chaffee and former senator governor Nelson Rockefeller.
    Conservative Democrats opposed civil rights. The Democrats opposed to the civil rights movement weren’t Democrats with the center-left ideology of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. They were, in fact, conservatives – especially from the south – with far more in common with Limbaugh, Beck, etc. than any modern mainstream Democrat. When people say that someone like notorious segregationist Bull Connor was a Democrat, they are technically right on the party label, but when it comes to ideology Connor and the rest of those opposed to racial integration were conservatives.


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    Quote Quote by: Meleagar View Post
    There are racists in both parties, but Democrats are the ones that constantly race-bait
    You mean "race-bait" like posting a list they prepared of all the racist members of the opposing party? You'd have to have a mental defect to not realize how hypocritical and ignorant your posts are. Not only do you make groundless accusations, you turn around and do exact thing you accuse the opposition of doing. Are you being intentionally obtuse with this dribble? Or is this just a major and unfortunate oversight?

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    There is an awful lot of misinformation and untruth out there about the legacy of the two major political parties and the civil rights movement. Conservatives often like to use slight of hand, insisting that because the early Republican party was stronger in support of civil rights, this means that conservatives have the moral high ground. This is totally untrue.
    Republicans – Moderate and Liberal Republicans supported civil rights. The Republicans who supported civil rights in America were not conservatives of the same ilk as George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They were liberals and moderates, people like former Rhode Island senator Lincoln Chaffee and former senator governor Nelson Rockefeller.
    Conservative Democrats opposed civil rights. The Democrats opposed to the civil rights movement weren’t Democrats with the center-left ideology of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. They were, in fact, conservatives – especially from the south – with far more in common with Limbaugh, Beck, etc. than any modern mainstream Democrat. When people say that someone like notorious segregationist Bull Connor was a Democrat, they are technically right on the party label, but when it comes to ideology Connor and the rest of those opposed to racial integration were conservatives.
    It seems that you - and the democrats - are the ones using the sleight-of-hand to avoid historical facts. Democrats have a much longer and broader history of racism in the USA, including founding and populating the KKK.

    As I said, there are racists in both parties, but you don't see the Republicans calling everyone who disagrees with them or their ideas "racist". There were people that challenged bush's reserves record, kerry's combat service, bush's history of drug use, kerry's anti-war protesting .. did they do all that because of racism? The left called bush an illegitimate president for years ... did they do that because of racism?

    Calling people racists only attempts to shut them up, it doesn't debate the ideas.

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    Liberals are not racist if they are they would be republican
    Is Jesse Jackson a liberal? Is Helen Thomas a liberal? Joe Biden? Harry Reid?

    I note however that such facts are wasted on a closed mind.

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    Quote Quote by: Meleagar View Post
    Is Jesse Jackson a liberal? Is Helen Thomas a liberal? Joe Biden? Harry Reid?

    I note however that such facts are wasted on a closed mind.
    What facts?

    [SIZE=4]lib·er·al[/SIZE]/ˈlib(ə)rəl/
    [COLOR=#767676]Noun: [/COLOR]A person of liberal views.
    [COLOR=#767676]Adjective: [/COLOR]Open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values

    If they are racist then no. I do not carry water for dems I am a progressive but the fact is today repulicans are racist go watch fox news for 10 mins


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    Quote Quote by: Meleagar View Post
    Is Jesse Jackson a liberal? Is Helen Thomas a liberal? Joe Biden? Harry Reid?

    I note however that such facts are wasted on a closed mind.
    Democrat =/= liberal.
    Liberal =/= democrat.

    Democrats in the US are, in general, conservative.

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    Quote Quote by: pandasftw View Post
    the fact is today repulicans are racist go watch fox news for 10 mins
    I don't know that all Republicans are racist, nor do I think 10 minutes of Fox News would be enough to demonstrate such a claim. I think Republicans tend to be more bigoted and close-minded than liberals or even Democrats, but racism itself is so largely frowned upon that it would be pretty hard to conclusively demonstrate someone who isn't overtly and openly racist to be racist - Republican or Democrat (and this includes the quotes mined by Meleagar above, which I think demonstrate very little conclusively).

    Also, I feel it's important to point out the relativity of racism - that at heart, we're all a little bit racist, even the most progressive among us. That's not the same thing we're talking about here, though.

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    There are racists on the left and right, end of story. I'm conservative, it doesn't mean I am racist.

    This post in fact is separating human beings into two different categories and generalizing a belief to one of the groups entirely.

    Perhaps we should just stop playing the race cards when it is not needed. I see this all the time. I don't like Obama because of his economic and foreign policy, it has nothing to do with racial anger towards him.

    These "uneducated republicans," may just be making a poor effort at defending their beliefs. However, since we have no idea the reason why they were being called racist to begin with, we can't really say what their intentions were, can we?

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    Quote Quote by: pandasftw View Post
    What facts?

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    If they are racist then no. I do not carry water for dems I am a progressive but the fact is today repulicans are racist go watch fox news for 10 mins
    The fact is progressives are racist go watch any network for 10 mins.

    See, we both can hurl the term "racist" around and generalize; it means nothing other than an attempt to harm and undermine one's opponent without actually debating ideas.

    BTW, the subject of the thread is about Democrat racists; I think that it is clear there are plenty of democrat racists, just as there are plenty of republican racists.

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    The terms Democrat and Republican are misleading, but its easier to be a racist conservative than a racist liberal [I use the term racist here to mean open racism, as opposed to the subtleties of racism that present themselves across the board]. Liberal ideology tends to require compassion for those unlike yourself.

    Also, Meleager, the only racist Democrats you've listed have been those in the historical periods where "Democrat" was synonymous with "conservative". You have yet to give a modern example.


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    Quote Quote by: el ايمان View Post
    Also, Meleager, the only racist Democrats you've listed have been those in the historical periods where "Democrat" was synonymous with "conservative". You have yet to give a modern example.
    Furthermore, even modern Democrats are not (for the most part, anyways) liberals. And...

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    The fact is progressives are racist go watch any network for 10 mins.
    Can you name even a single mainstream progressive television network? I sure can't.

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    The terms Democrat and Republican are misleading, but its easier to be a racist conservative than a racist liberal [I use the term racist here to mean open racism, as opposed to the subtleties of racism that present themselves across the board]. Liberal ideology tends to require compassion for those unlike yourself.
    Compassion for those "unlike yourself" just because they are unlike yourself (racially speaking) is racism. In fact, referring to others as "unlike yourself" just because they are a different race is, IMO, racist.

    Also, Meleager, the only racist Democrats you've listed have been those in the historical periods where "Democrat" was synonymous with "conservative". You have yet to give a modern example.
    The above is proof you don't even bother to read the posts of those you disagree with.

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