Is it bad cuz god says so.....

[gospurs]

or does god say so because it is (inherently) bad?

if the latter is true, do we even need god?
if the former is true, and god says killing is good, would that make killing good?

[Senor Hoint]

God supposedly sent a flood to the Earth that killed everyone except like eight people.

His sense of right and wrong is severely warped.

[tinybear]

God turned a woman into a pillar of salt just because she was curious, but forgave a guy who murdered his subordinate and stole his wife. Yeah, it seems His sense of right and wrong is severely warped alright.

[Angry Citizen]

You folks have your group therapy sessions (church), we have our forum posts.

Incidentally, if God exists, he's just as capable of being immoral as we are. I see no reason to assert God's supremacy in matters of morality.

[el ايمان]

I will come to the defense of God.

He is not bound by human standards of morality.

[Questatement]

I will come to the defense of God.

He is not bound by human standards of morality.

Remind me to never hire you when I need legal representation.

LOL

[BlackSheep]

I will come to the defense of God.

He is not bound by human standards of morality.

Hmm. I was under the impression that the question involves whether something is bad because god says it is. That would imply that there are no human standards only divine ones.

[Jem]

Is it bad cuz god says so.....

The that would be God's own subjective and warped opinion of right and wrong.

or does god say so because it is (inherently) bad?

That would be at least based upon an objective reason of right and wrong but in some cases God clearly then has made a mitake in what is objectively right or wrong.

[Maryjane]

Is it bad cuz god says so.....
or does god say so because it is (inherently) bad?

if the latter is true, do we even need god?
if the former is true, and god says killing is good, would that make killing good?

I was pretty sure this was the topic of discussion.

[el ايمان]

Hmm. I was under the impression that the question involves whether something is bad because god says it is. That would imply that there are no human standards only divine ones.

The human concept of God inevitably superimposes human standards as the standards of the divine. We have no clue what the standards are that God lives by.

[BlackSheep]

The human concept of God inevitably superimposes human standards as the standards of the divine. We have no clue what the standards are that God lives by.

Again it circumvents the OP.

[Questatement]

“ I just don’t see why you debate or discuss something you don’t believe in”.

Why debate about unicorns, fairytales, and such, as its put forth by some atheists here discussing the subject of God?

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In the book of Romans, Paul has an interesting line of reasoning about sinful, human nature in that, since its basic substance is rebellion against God, this nature is stimulated by, therefore seeks out, moral truths/laws etc in order to express itself (in opposition to them).

Although Paul is referring to the Jewish nation and the Mosaic law, I wonder if this might apply to atheism's fascination with the biblical God at the expense of most other forms of deism/theism/supernaturalism?