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    Quote Quote by: arX View Post
    So a non-Muslim can go torture, rape and murder babies but once he simply "repents" (of course only by taking the shahadah since, I assume, even the most rigourous of psychological analyses for correctional behaviour would be meaningless to you unless he converts to your religion) he is, just like that, a completely sinless human being.

    Would you invite such a person to your home and amongst your family or children, if you had any?
    Response: Your assumption as usual is based on your own warped logic. As for your question, I would invite only those who I am close to, to be amongst my family and children. Just because one is forgiven for their past sins does not mean that they have changed their ways and won't continue to sin. So if I knew such a person to be a good person and a close companion, I would have no problem inviting him or her amongst my family and children.

    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen

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    1. God is just. I don't know if God sends babies to Hell or not. A friend of mine asked once "If everyone is born into sin, and everyone has to repent to go to Heaven, but a baby dies and they never even get a chance to repent, do they still go to Hell?" The fact is God is all-knowing. God knows what I would do if I was President. God knows what I would do if I was a homeless beggar. God knows what I would do if I was a soldier in WWII. The same is with these children. God knows if the baby would've grown up to be a kind loving family man, or the next Adolf Hitler. To say for sure if God sends them to Hell, I have no idea. But his decision is a fair one.

    Really, this answer addresses all of your scenarios. God knows what was, is, what will be and what could be. So it doesn't matter if I'm born in a Hindu environment or born with a mental disorder. God knows what I'd become even if I didn't become a Hindu or had a completely perfect mind and brain. All of your questions assume God has limited intelligence, but sadly he doesn't.

    To address the 5th one, the commandment is "Thou shalt not kill.", so regardless if he was taught or convinced he was "sending children to Heaven", the law is that he's not allowed to do it.


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    Quote Quote by: DoctorBarber View Post
    1. The fact is God is all-knowing. God knows what I would do if I was President. God knows what I would do if I was a homeless beggar. God knows what I would do if I was a soldier in WWII. The same is with these children. God knows if the baby would've grown up to be a kind loving family man, or the next Adolf Hitler. To say for sure if God sends them to Hell, I have no idea. But his decision is a fair one.
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    "God knows what was, is, what will be and what could be"

    now if god knows everything that what will be the result of the test he giving me to attempt , then whats the need to test?

    means what the need to arrange a large drama of world and send about half of the people to hell and heaven after they have given 100's of years of tests though god already knew that who will go to heaven and who to hell!!
    couldn't he directly send all to heaven and hell?

    my friend these dogmas are false from their base so you wont be able to get logic in htese dogmas of hell and heaven.. anytime.. there's no stupid place as heaven with virgins or hell with fire..
    be Vedic be logical. POINT OUT A SINGLE DISCREPANCY IN VEDAS AND I WILL ROLL ON MY HEAD TO ACCEPT ANY RELIGION YOU SAY..

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    Quote Quote by: aryaveer View Post
    "God knows what was, is, what will be and what could be"

    now if god knows everything that what will be the result of the test he giving me to attempt , then whats the need to test?

    means what the need to arrange a large drama of world and send about half of the people to hell and heaven after they have given 100's of years of tests though god already knew that who will go to heaven and who to hell!!
    couldn't he directly send all to heaven and hell?

    my friend these dogmas are false from their base so you wont be able to get logic in htese dogmas of hell and heaven.. anytime.. there's no stupid place as heaven with virgins or hell with fire..
    be Vedic be logical. POINT OUT A SINGLE DISCREPANCY IN VEDAS AND I WILL ROLL ON MY HEAD TO ACCEPT ANY RELIGION YOU SAY..

    Mission Agniveer - Vision Vedas
    Response: In islam, Allah knows the future of your life based upon your actions. So since the future of your life is dependent upon your actions, that means that you yourself has control of the future of your life. Allah does not test you directly through every second of your life, but it is life itself that is the test. And based on your actions and what's in your heart, Allah knows what lies ahead in your future. He does not predetermine your future. You do. But Allah knows what will result from the actions you choose. This is how Allah knows your outcome, and the purpose of life testing you is too see whether you will still love and worship Allah.

    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen

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    The only thing that I wish to say is that no one here has an inkling of the mercy and just judgment of God and what the Christian bible REALLY says!

    A great start for a better understanding is here: TheSimpleAnswers.com » Blog Archive » Is This The ONLY Day of Salvation? or here: Is This the ONLY Day of Salvation? - by Roderick C. Meredith

    The day of judgment is not a day of punishment but a time of learning...learning God's truths without the deceptions of Satan.

    Those who are SAVED now will be PRIEST and KINGS over all of the rest of humanity who really never had a chance to know God and/or Jesus. At that time, the billions of unsaved humans, resurrected back to a physical body, will get the chance to accept God's gift. God is just and fair and not at all the way most people (including most Christian preachers) perceive Him to be.

    God wants ALL men to be saved (it's a big universe and He needs a LOT of workers) but only a select few are being chosen NOW to be teachers and leaders (priests and kings) in the world to come.

    Think about it. If you are fair-minded, how much more so is God (since you were created in His image)?

    Practically the WHOLE WORLD is deceived and most will not learn the truth until after they are bodily resurrected in the world to come!

    There is only one right answer and, yet, you still argue with me..

    I'm the proof that evolution works...

    You're the proof that it doesn't.


    Ask your doctor if thinking is right for you.

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    Quote Quote by: loser View Post
    God wants ALL men to be saved (it's a big universe and He needs a LOT of workers) but only...
    LOL, when I first glanced at that sentence I read "god needs a LOT of WANKERS". Is there a word for that phenomenon?

    Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens

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    Quote Quote by: Peter View Post
    LOL, when I first glanced at that sentence I read "god needs a LOT of WANKERS". Is there a word for that phenomenon?
    Yes, it's called RESURRECTION.

    There is only one right answer and, yet, you still argue with me..

    I'm the proof that evolution works...

    You're the proof that it doesn't.


    Ask your doctor if thinking is right for you.

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    yes obviously god has not made people in his own image so that afterwards more than half of them can burn in hell forever.


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    Been noticing that...although this Gawd is espoused as being all-seeing and all-powerful...it seems to operate in a very narrow minded fashion.
    For instance...Thou shalt not kill...except of course if you don't realize that killing is bad, or we can make accommodations for those who will say they're sorry eventually.
    So if your true intention was to kill someone and you carried out the act, and felt completely justified in doing so, thus never saying you're sorry...you go to hell?
    Boy, there must be allot of soldiers in hell.

    Lets face it...this Gawd people have created is as fickle as the people who created it are...gee...what a surprise...


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