Why invade Iraq?

[Rainbow]

Originally posted by macnpat,
Look up how much oil we use from Iraq and then look up South America and Canada. or remain fucking stupid.

We got intelligence in the middle east every surrounding Nation of Iraq gathers intelligence from Iraq and advised Bush, remember?

Can you be more economically specific or are you grasping straws in the dark?

You are the most igorant poster I've ever read.

#1
Nice comparison chart. It may "feed and enforce" somebody's mind, no doubt. :-)))
(Try to control your emmotions, and keep that vocabulry to yourself, instead.)
#2
Dreaming.
#3
You are smart, then you can get all the light on your own :-)))
#4
I try my the best to match your level.
It does not work ? Sorry :-)))

Seriously ?
You have all the data you need. Think, analyze and you have all the answers you look for.

[macnpat]

Please read, learn. Nothing you have said is real, true or facts.

[Evil Baby]

Well that's funny because according to the White House website then mention nothing other then WMD and terrorist ties


Disarm Saddam Hussein

The gravest danger we face in the war on terror is outlaw regimes that seek and possess nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.
Twelve years ago, Saddam Hussein agreed to disarm all weapons of mass destruction. For 12 years, he systematically violated that agreement.
Three months ago, the United Nations Security Council gave Saddam his final chance to disarm. He has shown his utter contempt for the U.N.
The U.N. and U.S. intelligence sources have known for some time that Saddam Hussein has materials to produce chemical and biological weapons, but he has not accounted for them:
26,000 liters of anthrax—enough to kill several million people
38,000 liters of botulinum toxin
500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agents
Almost 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents
From three Iraqi defectors, we know that Iraq in the late 1990s had several mobile biological weapons labs. But he has not disclosed them.
The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, a design for a nuclear weapon, and was working on methods of enriching uranium for a nuclear bomb. He recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa, according to the British Government. He has attempted to purchase high strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons, according to our intelligence sources. Yet he has not credibly explained these activities.
Thousands of Iraqi security personnel are at work hiding documents and materials from the UN inspectors.
Iraqi officials accompany all inspectors in order to intimidate witnesses.
Iraq is blocking U-2 surveillance flights requested by the U.N.
Saddam Hussein has ordered that scientists who cooperate with the UN be killed, along with their families.
Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including al-Qaida members. He could provide hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own. It would take just one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known.

The United States will ask the UN Security Council to convene next week to consider the facts of Iraq’s ongoing defiance of the world. We will consult. But if Saddam Hussein does not disarm, we will act for the safety of our people, and for the peace of the world.


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Also, just out of curiosity, were the No-Fly zones actually sanctioned by the U.N.?

[Mia]

Originally posted by Dieval,
Why do I even bother?

Was this question meant to be rhetorical, was it addressed to someone with the goal of eliciting an answer, or were you talking to yourself?

[Zeebadee]

" We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."

" And surveillance photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities that it had used to produce chemical and biological weapons. "

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."

"We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."

" Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20021007-8.html

Lies and more lies. These are direct Bush quotes.

When the WMD's weren't found, the rationale for the war shifted to "humanitarian" reasons. Now that it's becoming apparent that the US is killing a lot of Iraqi civilians, that rationale won't work either. It's now become a war because Iraq is violating a UN resolution. The fact that a lot of the nations we support and give billions of dollars to are also in violation of UN resolutions doesn't seem to bother the bushistas in the slightest.

[Mia]

Good God Almighty, what is the POINT in here? We did it. We're doing it. If we want it to stop let's do something about it instead of endlessly discussing the pros and cons on something already in action!

If you want it to improve, stop writing and go door to door until enough people go to the polls and put John Kerry and John Edwards into the White House!

You are wasting valuable time right now.

We have only DAYS to DO SOMETHING. Action, not words, people!

Yakking in here won't solve ANYTHING!

Let's move. Nike, baby. Savvy? ;-)

[Gorgo]

I don't know why. These planes were flying in Iraq illegally, bombing illegally, sometimes almost daily, sometimes more than weekly for years. No plane was ever hit because they knew how high to fly. They knew what to expect.

Originally posted by Dieval,
Why do I even bother?

[bluecoller-eddie]

macnpat
Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause,

Balder-dash, kid-shit, I'll believe this nonsense when
I see republicans march on Washington demanding that
we invade N. Korea, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia for
a great moral cause. Bah humbug! :(

The price of freedom is courage.

......[SIZE=2][color=orange]Iraq is innocent of 911[/color][/SIZE]
The problem with republicans is....
...........[color=red][SIZE=2]YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH[/color][/SIZE]...
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[macnpat]

Originally posted by bluecoller-eddie,

macnpat
Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause,

Balder-dash, kid-shit, I'll believe this nonsense when
I see republicans march on Washington demanding that
we invade N. Korea, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia for
a great moral cause. Bah humbug! :(

First of all, I didn't say that, Bush did. And the point is not that he said it, the point is that he said it before the invasion of Iraq. Why this is important is because the leftists in this country are trying to spin it to show that Bush only went in for WMD's.

You lefties are so caught up in your own muck raking, there is not one iota of common sense among yas.

[nogoodideas]

Doesn't matter what he said. All you need to know is that to attack another country is a violation of international law. The Constitution makes treaties law of the land. The UN Charter is the law of the land. The UN Charter says that there is only one way that this would have been a legal attack. To remove an imminent threat

1. The U.N. imposed sanctions where failing to achieve their objectives, this is documented by the U.N. Investigators and by U.N. intelligence. We where pinning our hopes of safety on other nations. The main problem with the sanctions is that Saddam attempted to use every inspection process and a bargaining tool to get around sanctions.

2. 9/11 revealed that we can no longer wait until a threat fully materializes. If there is clear threat we need to act on it. I find it amazing that some people criticize Bush for not acting against Al Quida preemptively and the criticize him for doing exactly that in Iraq.

3. Iraq was a clear threat they had training camps used to train terrorist on plane hi-jacking techniques. They had weapons banned by the U.N. Saddam offered $25,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers if they manage to kill an American in their attacks.

Invading Iraq was the right thing to do. However we didn't do it right. We should have courted the Iraqi people more (worked to build in country support). We should have took steps to ensure stability after the fall of Baghdad and we should have everything in place so we could swoop in and hold general elections right away.

Bush made a few mistakes. Did he move to war with more haste than was needed? In hind sight yes, I guess so. However its easy to second guess everything.

[Gorgo]

1) The inspections were working.

2) 9/11 showed that murder is not a constructive occupation.

3) Iraq was a threat to no one.

4) Invading Iraq was a crime against humanity and a crime against all reason.

[Evil Baby]

Originally posted by nogoodideas,
2. 9/11 revealed that we can no longer wait until a threat fully materializes. If there is clear threat we need to act on it. I find it amazing that some people criticize Bush for not acting against Al Quida preemptively and the criticize him for doing exactly that in Iraq.

Iraq didn't show any threat towards the U.S. or anybody else, whereas Al Quida did, well before Bush was in power and still does

3. Iraq was a clear threat they had training camps used to train terrorist on plane hi-jacking techniques. They had weapons banned by the U.N. Saddam offered $25,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers if they manage to kill an American in their attacks.

Sorry, I've never heard this one so I'm not sure how true it is. Do you have a link? or is this just another defector story that has failed to be proven while the U.S. was in Iraq?