Parental Punishment

[Maryjane]

[QUOTE]

Even a four year old can tell when their parent is unhappy with them.

Agreed~ Some of you seriously need classes on child development.

Stages of Intellectual Development In Children and Teenagers (Child Development Institute)

As one who has never been a parent, I couldn't say for sure, but I have a hard time seeing the argument that corporal punishment is "necessary" for any reason at all.

As a parent of three and one that spent years volunteering in the public school system, as well as managed youth hockey teams, I've worked with children from birth to age 18. I can tell you that there is no reason for corporal punishment.

Little children aren't bad, nor do they do bad things. Telling them they are only reinforces guilt and shame. They are inquisitive by nature and get into things perhaps they shouldn't, It's the parents responsibility to child proof their environment, not slap them when they touch something they should not. Soylent is also correct, that children will attempt to manipulate other humans to get what they want. It's up to the parent to avoid encouraging this kind of behavior and reward the positives, else the manipulative behaviors become part of their character .

Bad behaviors most often occur due to lazy, non existent, or inconsistent parenting. How do you think a preschool teacher is able to maintain discipline in a classroom of 12 kids? It's not by hitting them, I can assure you. Children love rituals and schedules and the rewards that come from adhering to them.

If slapping worked, you'd only have to hit them once but that's not the case. If an adult can't outsmart a child and has to resort to hitting them, who is the intelligent one?

[ZNFYRH]

Actually, dogs tend to be very limited in knowing what is good and bad and I learnt some very surprising things about the way they work (mostly, for example, when you scream in anger about the pile of shit on the floor, he/she has no idea that you are angry about THAT as it happened to far away for him/her to relate), but either way.

That's a given. But that's why you have to bring the dog over to the pile of shit, point at it, make sure they are looking at it, at the same time as you are using your "angry voice."

And what exactly is the extent of this "corporal punishment" some of you are talking about?

Beatings? Spankings? Slap on the face? What's the extent of "corporal punishment"?

[ensayne]

That's a given. But that's why you have to bring the dog over to the pile of shit, point at it, make sure they are looking at it, at the same time as you are using your "angry voice."

Yea....that don't work. I assure you (backed with scientific data).

[ZNFYRH]

Where's the "scientific data?"

When dealing with behavior, you have to consider the subject (dog, child, etc.). What works for one does not work for another.

But what do I know... I'm only speaking from experience, both as a child, as a parent, and as someone who raised dogs. And I've yet to have any problems with my method of "get to know the child"

[DavidSupreme]

That's a given. But that's why you have to bring the dog over to the pile of shit, point at it, make sure they are looking at it, at the same time as you are using your "angry voice."

Good to know you punish your dog so nice..
The dog has no idea why you are angry, you can "point" to the pile of shit all you want, they do not understand. If your punishment is a couple of seconds aftter the event, say 10, it simple cant make a mental connection between the punishment and what was "bad", you really need to do it just the SECONDS after the event else it has no idea why you are pissed, sorry.

And what exactly is the extent of this "corporal punishment" some of you are talking about?

I don't know about others, I have zero tolerance for corporal punishment, there is no reason to harm your children and it is also a contradiction to the laws we have of not harming people, why should your own children be allowed to get smacked but not your neighbour?

Beatings? Spankings? Slap on the face? What's the extent of "corporal punishment"?

None for my part. But I think I am unique on this one, doubt many would agree with me.

[SoylentGreen]

None for my part. But I think I am unique on this one, doubt many would agree with me.

I agree with you, we have had three kids and not used physical punishment or needed to. and i agree with ZNFYRH, it helps to know your child.