People Die equal HAPPY!

[DavidSupreme]

I am always so wondrous about Christians being sad when people die, it makes no sense. They show not only sadness but seem to have not wanted the people to die in the first place. For example, if a plane crashes killing all the people inside, shouldn't any Christian celebrate this event? These lucky people that died are now in Heaven and this usless period we call living is over, they should be joyous....

But they show/are the opposite, for some strange reason...

As some of you may know, Religious people are some of the most terrified people of death (natural or not). Every single statistics and research in this have shown that people that are especially highly religious/fundamental, are also terrified of their oncoming death, which is strange if you would be a Christian or Muslim I would say.

A Christian needs to accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour and they will get into Heaven. It does not matter what you do or done, rape children, burn down a school packed of people etc, you are one of the Lords People if you accepted him in your Heart and you go to Heaven, everyone else will Burn....



So, why are (specifically) Christians in my nation so saddened by Deaths such as the 9/11 innocent, Why do they not Celebrate it, All the people that died that is now enjoying Heaven, whats the deal here? Why sad?

Actually, shouldn't any Christian want to die as soon as possible?

[Dolly]

As some of you may know, Religious people are some of the most terrified people of death (natural or not). Every single statistics and research in this have shown that people that are especially highly religious/fundamental, are also terrified of their oncoming death,

Can you provide a link to one of those research statistics so we can look it over?

IMHO, there could be a difference between being pleased that the dearly departed will be reaching their eternal reward, and grieving the loss of the earthly relationship with them (or mourning the senseless murder of innocents as in the 9/11 example - murder and natural death are hardly the same). But what do I know? I'm not organized enough to belong to a religion.

[Apeman81]

davidsupreme;711469]I am always so wondrous about Christians being sad when people die, it makes no sense. They show not only sadness but seem to have not wanted the people to die in the first place. For example, if a plane crashes killing all the people inside, shouldn't any Christian celebrate this event? These lucky people that died are now in Heaven and this usless period we call living is over, they should be joyous....

But they show/are the opposite, for some strange reason

One can be sad for one’s own loss of the relationship with the departed at the same time they rejoice in the person’s hoped for union with Christ.

As some of you may know, Religious people are some of the most terrified people of death (natural or not). Every single statistics and research in this have shown that people that are especially highly religious/fundamental, are also terrified of their oncoming death, which is strange if you would be a Christian or Muslim I would say

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Nothing like a gratuitous statement.

A Christian needs to accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour and they will get into Heaven. It does not matter what you do or done, rape children, burn down a school packed of people etc, you are one of the Lords People if you accepted him in your Heart and you go to Heaven, everyone else will Burn....

[B]So, why are (specifically) Christians in my nation so saddened by Deaths such as the 9/11 innocent, Why do they not Celebrate it, All the people that died that is now enjoying Heaven, whats the deal here? Why sad?

Celebrate the death of “9/11 innocent”? What if they were not saved? What if, due to their life being cut short, they had not received God’s Grace through Christ? We should celebrate that?

Actually, shouldn't any Christian want to die as soon as possible?

What of God’s plan for us? We should selfishly seek death instead of serving God according to his plan? We should seek death, because we’ve “got ours” instead of serving God to offer others salvation?

What a selfish attitude.

[RickSp]

That is the promise - "there will be pie in the sky when you die!"

The most powerful lies are the often the most pleasant.

[Apeman81]

That is the promise - "there will be pie in the sky when you die!"

The most powerful lies are the often the most pleasant.

And thus begins the downward spiral of every thread concerning religion.

Someone asks a question or makes a statement about what they perceive as a flaw in a religious belief, some attempt to discuss the issue, and then the religious detractors, with no regard to the topic, begin the “it’s all a lie” and “believers are dupes” and (insert derogatory statement here). Anti-God forbid anyone have a serious conversation about a religious tenet, especially Christian.

[SoylentGreen]

What of God’s plan for us? We should selfishly seek death instead of serving God according to his plan? We should seek death, because we’ve “got ours” instead of serving God to offer others salvation?

What a selfish attitude.

How do you know suicide is not god's plan for you. Are you refusing to explore certain avenues, what a selfish attitude.

[minorwork]

And thus begins the downward spiral of every thread concerning religion.

Someone asks a question or makes a statement about what they perceive as a flaw in a religious belief, some attempt to discuss the issue, and then the religious detractors, with no regard to the topic, begin the “it’s all a lie” and “believers are dupes” and (insert derogatory statement here). Anti-God forbid anyone have a serious conversation about a religious tenet, especially Christian.

Uh, the tenet that a man that died 2000 years ago is alive today seems pretty dubious. Seriously.

[Apeman81]

Uh, the tenet that a man that died 2000 years ago is alive today seems pretty dubious. Seriously.

Then, if you feel so compelled, express your disbelief. Such comments need not devolve into "its all a lie and you are a dupe for believing it".

[Apeman81]

How do you know suicide is not god's plan for you. Are you refusing to explore certain avenues, what a selfish attitude.

Rather silly post. I would love to hear your explanation of what circumstances would lead God to plan a believer’s murder of self.

[RickSp]

And thus begins the downward spiral of every thread concerning religion.

Someone asks a question or makes a statement about what they perceive as a flaw in a religious belief, some attempt to discuss the issue, and then the religious detractors, with no regard to the topic, begin the “it’s all a lie” and “believers are dupes” and (insert derogatory statement here). Anti-God forbid anyone have a serious conversation about a religious tenet, especially Christian.

That's right - the poor persecuted Christians, demographically roughly 80 percent of the country, with the politicians in your pocket and evangelicals on the street corners, cable channels and ringing doorbells. You folks are so put-upon as you try to shove your dogma down everyone elses' throats.

I am not preventing you from having a serious discussion, though I think it speaks volumes that you take such deference to my two sentence post.

[Apeman81]

That's right - the poor persecuted Christians, demographically roughly 80 percent of the country, with the politicians in your pocket and evangelicals on the street corners, cable channels and ringing doorbells. You folks are so put-upon as you try to shove your dogma down everyone elses' throats.

I am not preventing you from having a serious discussion, though I think it speaks volumes that you take such deference to my two sentence post.

Your churlish comment does not further the discussion, it only detracts from it. That is by design. The provocative verbiage you employ is selected in order to distract the conversation from the topic, it is your wish to incite reaction so that the discussion be interrupted.

I gave you your wish. My gift to you; as you are one who craves the attention only mindless insult will bring, which you are so very prepared to "shove down our throats"

As for the topic of the thread, I await thoughtful comment concerning my rebuttal to davidsupreme’s specious claims.

[Philip Lu]

Can you provide a link to one of those research statistics so we can look it over?

IMHO, there could be a difference between being pleased that the dearly departed will be reaching their eternal reward, and grieving the loss of the earthly relationship with them (or mourning the senseless murder of innocents as in the 9/11 example - murder and natural death are hardly the same). But what do I know? I'm not organized enough to belong to a religion.

Isn't it jealous to want to hold on to an earthly relationship?