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  • The Majority Is Over privileged

    2 16.67%
  • The Minority is Underprivileged

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  • It Depends upon vantage point

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    Quote Quote by: Diogenes View Post
    Our society is based upon a pyramid system...
    this system only allows a limited room for advancement...
    The global economy is, to a large extent, run by the aristocracy of the world. That's the elementary truth.

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    Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.

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    It's class that divides us not race.


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    I'm going to flip a coin: Heads I win, tails you lose.
    Your survey doesn't have too many options.

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    Quote Quote by: Apeman81 View Post
    What could possibly make anyone "over" privileged?

    What should be denied the individual because someone else cannot avail themselves of it?
    Being over privileged, to me, applied to the Skull and Bones crowd. The blue blood elites who incestuously keep all the money and jobs in the family.


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    Quote Quote by: TheChamp View Post
    Being over privileged, to me, applied to the Skull and Bones crowd. The blue blood elites who incestuously keep all the money and jobs in the family.
    Oligarchy. That used to be Canada's government.

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    There isn't a single modern US president who can't trace their family back to English or Dutch Royalty including Obama (who is actually a distant relative of George Bush's).


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    People talk of this class warfare idiocy like being a 50-billionaire is the ultimate goal in life.
    Yeah, but that's the problem. These billionaires drain all the wealth from the average person, the one who is not interested in becoming wealthy, who just wants to teach for example.

    Not to mention the fact that the teacher is more valuable to society than the employer. (Especially when he barely pays above poverty).

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    You picked one of the few examples where the value versus pay ratio is way out of whack. Noone disputes that teachers are underpaid. However, even being underpaid as they are, they make a better living than most of the world. What more could they want? A bigger domicile? More food? A faster car?

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    Well, I made this comment on the assumption that the OP made that the privelige of the Upper Class (the Billionaire) meant the impoverishment, or at least difficult living conditions of the under class.

    Something which I agree with, by the way.

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    I was making that comment based on the OP's assumption that the enrichment of the upper class meant bad living conditions for the under class.

    Something with which I agree with, by the way.

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    Quote Quote by: lukas8u View Post
    Well, I made this comment on the assumption that the OP made that the privelige of the Upper Class (the Billionaire) meant the impoverishment, or at least difficult living conditions of the under class.

    Something which I agree with, by the way.
    That is absurd. Even our poor are 'rich' compared to most of the world. There is no absolute poverty in America.

    Define 'difficult living conditions'. Health care aside, is the average American worse off than the average European? Do Europeans have more and/or better things than Americans? What is the problem here? Is it really a matter of statistics, or is there a real problem in the status quo?

    To edit: The poorest and the richest are where the capitalist system is known to break down. Programs should exist to reduce the disparity. But the fact remains, in all but the most extreme cases, Americans are extraordinarily well off. Our standard of living is remarkable.

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    Health care aside, is the average American worse off than the average European?
    You just "asidideded" one of the most important things! (I'm assuming you agree that the Average American is in a bad position healthcare wise)
    Think about living conditions- there is far less obesity in Europe. Far better (read: Existent) public transportation. And while the Average American may be materially better off, you realize that's not the point?
    There is no financial security here. The average one father working family (which in itself is increasingly rare here) may have a decent income and some basic health insurance, but what if the father gets hurt, or god forbid, loses his life? The man doesn't have a job, and last time I checked, workers compensation for such an injury lasts maybe 3 months.

    My mother had breast cancer two years ago, and our family has a comprehensive health care plan. We are still being hounded for payments we have recorded we already payed. Efficient? No way.

    Your right- the average person doesn't need another car or a better house- that was never my point. Those things are paid for with sub prime loans.
    What I was saying is that the average hard working American doesn't even have basic financial security.

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