Hey Deadeye;Quote by: Deadeye
Have you seen this one yet???:
State of the Union Address - Public Analysis & Reaction - @ Volconvo Blogs
Hey Deadeye;
Have you seen this one yet???:
State of the Union Address - Public Analysis & Reaction - @ Volconvo Blogs
But he's popular only in certain circles,and that circle is getting ever smaller, and smaller and smaller. Eventually you'll need a powerful lens to see it. Funny, since he won in a landslide. What caused the radical change?
Must be the public found out what the man really believes and is. Yup, that did it.
I do not support Obama, but I must point out a great deal of slanderous misinformation and personal attacks against him in the media -- paranoid claims that really have little or nothing to do with actual policy: Obama is an illegal alien, he's a communist (which makes his continuation of Bush's bailouts and tax cuts interesting), he's an atheist/Muslim, he supports "death panels" and a unique tyranny in healthcare legislation (though Mitt Romney's plan also involved the individual mandate), etc. etc.
I haven't heard that he's HIV positive yet, but I'm sure that rumor came out of the mill somewhere.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
I see little criticism of Obama within the press, but some on talk radio, which tends to be conservative. So let's take your points one at a time:
1. Was Obama born within the US? I'm not sure this matters does it? He was born to an American women and since she's a citizen isn't Obama too, automatically? However why did it take so long for him to caugh up a birth certificate? How about...right away? Anyway I think it's much ado about nothing.
2. Is Obama a communist? I seriously doubt it. He is, I think; a socialist...but they are very different. Communism is a process, socialism an economic system wherein the government owns the means of production. Taking over banks, insurance companies and auto companies are what a socialists would do.
3. I have no idea a if Obama is a Muslim (but I think he might be) but he declares himself a Christian, which is enough for me, but does it really matter? Nope. Not much.
4. He does support "death Panels" since they are a part of Obama Care. The name is a put off, but it is pretty much right.
5. I don't believe that Obama has HIV. He, as far as I know, has been much more moral in his personal life than say, Clinton; who was a panting dog.
Obama's biggest problem is that he doesn't understand how our country really works and he doesn't seem to understand that we are a great country. I believe we are unique. I don't think he does.
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Hmmmm...don't remember him taking over anything. I remember him bailing out banks and car companies...but taking them over? As for the insurance companies...they deserve a good spanking. Yet they got a new source of income. How exactly is that taking them over?
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lol...the lunatic-fringe will simply NOT give up the work DEATH. People need to understand that this is the only way they will ever get heard...by scaring the shit outta old people. Personally I find this tactic disgusting, but I have to admit, it does work. In the end though, they will be exposed for what they are...
3 down...but so we're clear...
I'd rather listen to the closet homos and womanizers of the Republican party, describe Bill's cum-stains on Monica's dress, that watch GW kill thousands laying waste to a country that never attacked the US.
CORRECTION:
Obama's biggest problem is that he knows EXACTLY how your country works, but doesn't have the balls to fix it.
You WERE a great country. Now yer just a shell of a once great country that has become a global bully and amoralistic.
You are unique...and I thank the GAWDS for it...
If anything, corporations have taken a nice chunk of the government under Obama's watch. At this rate, we'll eventually end up where you don't have to declare your extra income.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
And what would he do of he had the "Balls" to do it? What is your solution to the ills of the nation?
When a bank, carmaker or insurance company gets "bailed out", in exchange for all that cash the government gives them, they must give the government enough shares in the business to acquite a "controlling interest", this is, in business parlance a "takeover". After the bailouts, the Obama administration's "pay czar" restricted salaries for the bailed corporations' officers, in GM they took over merger and acquisitions negotiations as well as those with unions. The government not only dictated the directors' compensation, but also set up the terms and deadlines for AIG, Bank of America and Citigroup to liquidate assets thereby controlling what in business parlance is called "major corporate change" (something that can only be done with that "controlling interest").
I wouldn't go so far as to say Obama "seized", "confiscated" or "nationalized" businesses, but his administration sure did "acquire" them, and under US law that's all they really can do, without going to court.
But who seems to be in control here?
"The U.S. government has bailed out Citigroup Inc, agreeing to
shoulder most
of the potential losses on $306 billion of high risk assets and
inject $20 billion of new capital, in its biggest rescue of a bank
yet. The government's $20 billion of new capital comes on top of
$25 billion it had put into the second-largest U.S. bank by assets,
and it will receive preferred shares with an 8 percent dividend in
return."
US bails out Citigroup - 11/25/08
"General Motors to Invest $1 Billion in Brazil Operations --Money
to Come from U.S. Rescue Program 18 Nov 2008 General Motors plans
to invest $1 billion in Brazil to avoid the kind of problems the
U.S. automaker is facing in its home market, said the beleaguered
car maker."
General Motors to Invest $1 Billion in Brazil Operations -- Money to Come from U.S. Rescue Program - Democratic Underground
Obviously, all involved in this kind of "commerce" will make concessions and assert demands. In a way, this is good for all sides involved. Then, if a new scandal comes along, all sides can say "It must be someone else's fault". It makes the new horizons of American business seem not so inspring.
But let's put the legitimacy of the bailout itself aside.
Here is what the government did, which it arguably had every
right to do under the circumstances:
"The Obama administration...issued guidelines that
include limiting salary for top executives at some firms receiving
TARP funds and requiring that additional pay be in the form of
restricted stock, vesting only after the company repays its debt, with
interest, to the government. Congress then chimed in with even tougher
rules curbing bonuses for top earners at firms receiving TARP money.
As part of that effort, lawmakers barred those firms from paying top
earners bonuses that equal more than a third of their total
compensation.
The White House has been wrestling with how to marry those two
efforts, which in combination are more punitive than administration
officials had intended."
FoxNews.com - Obama Set to Appoint Pay Czar
You needn't be from Area 51 to understand that, even if you disagree with the bailouts. In a way, these conditions were more like forward-looking statements than a firm, dictatorial grip.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
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