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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    The way I figure it, too.
    My father disagreed.
    At best, they can cite some allegations from their own Bibles, or from those who have studied similarly written Bibles. In my experience, anything else by the religious is idle speculation.

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    At best, they can cite some allegations from their own Bibles, or from those who have studied similarly written Bibles. In my experience, anything else by the religious is idle speculation.
    Don't you hope for anything grandpa? Maybe 2 hour workdays?

    The mine superintendent had Frank into the office complaining that Frank was only coming to work 3 days a week. Frank explained he couldn't get the bills paid working 2.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    Don't you hope for anything grandpa? Maybe 2 hour workdays?

    The mine superintendent had Frank into the office complaining that Frank was only coming to work 3 days a week. Frank explained he couldn't get the bills paid working 2.
    What?

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    What?
    I watched a movie about Howard Zinn. At one point he claimed the socialist life would be one where a person worked for 2 hours a day and enjoyed himself the rest of the time in leisure activities. I was making a bit of fun about it by recalling a miner buddy Frank who had a similar thing going by only working 3 days a week because he just couldn't make ends meet working only 2. You had to know Frank. And you had to know the superintendent Bud and how mad that would've made him.

    Alas, my talents are for nought. I'll not quit my day job. Oh yeah. I'm retired. I've got Zinn's socialist paradise beat all to hell.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    I watched a movie about Howard Zinn.
    At one point he claimed the socialist life would be
    one where a person worked for 2 hours a day
    and enjoyed himself the rest of the time in leisure
    activities.
    Yeah, but I wasn't talking about Howard Zinn or work. Nor do I know this Frank character, or the mine. Hence, a certain degree of confusion.

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    Yeah, but I wasn't talking about Howard Zinn or work. Nor do I know this Frank character, or the mine. Hence, a certain degree of confusion.

    Grandpa h.
    I figure you've a socialist dream from reading your posts. The bible thumpers facing death have hopes of life after. My friend Frank had a dream of working only 2 days a week. I have the dream of working none. I've realized mine. Frank was dreaming till he died. The thumpers dream till they're dead. And that leaves you, Grandpa h. Don't you hope or dream of anything?

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    I figure you've a socialist dream from reading your posts.
    The bible thumpers facing death have hopes of life after....
    That's because they're naive. The clock is ticking. Get used to it. As for me, I have more principles than I have "dreams."

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    That's because they're naive. The clock is ticking. Get used to it. As for me, I have more principles than I have "dreams."

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    Goals then? Realized principles not yet realized.

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    Goals then? Realized principles not yet realized.
    End goals are people who long for unchanging conformity. I try to live in the moment. Not that anything particularly grand happens in my life, mind you.

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    End goals are people who long for unchanging conformity. I try to live in the moment. Not that anything particularly grand happens in my life, mind you.

    Grandpa h.
    Turning the phone off eliminates a lot of nuisance. When I'd have a day off at home, it seemed there for awhile, there was more demands for my attention than when a belt was down at the mine.

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    Interesting though this little diversion has been, now might be a good time for me to point out that this thread does, in fact, actually have a topic, and you might want to get on with talking about that now, please.

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    The Devil Be Damned

    The theists attempt to convince their flock and convert others that there is scientific evidence for the Spiritual worlds, is nothing more than a strategy to rule over others. Those at the Discovery Institute pushed the school board in Dover, Pennsylvania as their proxy. This, in the manner of the Roman dictators and the National Football leagues who rule and manipulate their gladiators into battle in their respective arenas to give meaning to the lives of the masses.

    Intelligent Design, that Satan inspired golden calf, exemplifies theists' efforts to persuade the masses by scientific authority of the righteousness of their rule as the leaders of the way to God's glory.

    If the terrain and the map do not agree, follow the terrain.

    When motherhood becomes the fruit of a deep yearning, not the result of ignorance or accident, its children will become a new race.

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