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    Quote Quote by: viper View Post
    You know I posted this on another thread, but it applies here to. The solution is simple; don't go to jail! Duh.
    As self-proclaimed Ron Paul support, you would realize that following the constitution includes the 8th amendment!


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    Quote Quote by: rmnunez View Post
    I think fucked prisoners ought to have their terms reduced based on the number of times they prove they got fucked and that the fucking ones should have additional time tacked on to their sentences.

    This would disnincetivize crime a lot because the incarcerated population would gradually become just onery hard-timers who fucked a lot.

    What is the difference between a "jail" and a "prison"?
    LOL, the 5'5 140lb child rapist originally sentenced to 30 yrs in jail would get out in 6 months, with a butt hold the size of the Grand Canyon though!


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    And yet that is not the definition of rape. Words have meaning. To purposefully obfuscate the meaning of a word in order to bolster the number of “instances” for the sake of shoring up an otherwise weak position should not be accepted. If the commission is to study “sexual abuse, to include “a wider range of acts, including coercion or sexual pressure, sexualized touching, voyeurism, and exposure”, then it should be so named.
    So your problem is that governmental papers on prison do not have a long and windy and completely explanatory title to their heading.
    Perhaps a thorough reading of the paper instead of the lazy cursory glance at the title would be more appropriate.
    Is the best complaint you can make is that after just reading the title and nothing else you find the paper confusing.

    Our federal government has its place, as outlined in the document that served to create a new form of government and limit its powers to only those outlined in the document. The federal government has a penal system for federal crimes, which they may control as they wish with the people’s approval. Each state has a penal system, with rules and regulations to control and monitor its execution. The states should control their penal systems, codified in state laws, and monitored by state personnel. If convicts of a particular state have grievances, then they can forward them to the state for redress
    Is this meant to be a joke????
    You mean the federal government should only concern itself with itself and completely ignore the rest of the country. Again i ask why do you bother with a federal government when you don't want it to do anything but play with itself?


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    [QUOTE=SoylentGreen;633052][QUOTE]So your problem is that governmental papers on prison do not have a long and windy and completely explanatory title to their heading.
    Perhaps a thorough reading of the paper instead of the lazy cursory glance at the title would be more appropriate.
    Is the best complaint you can make is that after just reading the title and nothing else you find the paper confusing.”

    You complaint of my objection is groundless. The title could very easily state “Sexual Abuse” instead of “Rape”. Accuracy is not something we should eschew.

    I cannot help your inability to understand the scope and purpose of the U.S. federal government. The constitution outlines its powers and responsibilities; you are free to read it as you wish. The only statement I have made concerning the federal government is that it should not attempt to unduly influence the state level penal systems. That should be left to the states

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    [QUOTE=Apeman81;633074][QUOTE=SoylentGreen;633052]
    So your problem is that governmental papers on prison do not have a long and windy and completely explanatory title to their heading.
    Perhaps a thorough reading of the paper instead of the lazy cursory glance at the title would be more appropriate.
    Is the best complaint you can make is that after just reading the title and nothing else you find the paper confusing.”

    You complaint of my objection is groundless. The title could very easily state “Sexual Abuse” instead of “Rape”. Accuracy is not something we should eschew.

    I cannot help your inability to understand the scope and purpose of the U.S. federal government. The constitution outlines its powers and responsibilities; you are free to read it as you wish. The only statement I have made concerning the federal government is that it should not attempt to unduly influence the state level penal systems. That should be left to the states
    Reading the paper and not just relying on the title on which to judge would be more important than an accurate tiltle. I expect the paper was written for a specific audience who would understand the difference.


    So where do the feds duly influence then? If there not allowed a say in state affairs of what use are they?


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    Quote Quote by: GHook93 View Post
    As self-proclaimed Ron Paul support, you would realize that following the constitution includes the 8th amendment!
    Yes that means the government can't deal out cruel and unusual punishment, so the guard can't have a go, but big bubba the prisoner can


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    Quote Quote by: Apeman81 View Post
    “The term rape is not inflamatory in this case. Rape can, and obviously is, being used in the broader definition of unwanted sexual attention.
    My GOD!!! I am a serial rapist!


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    The quote should read 30,000 inmates are sexually abused, the other 30,000 are having a ball....so to speak.


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    Quote Quote by: Deadeye View Post
    The quote should read 30,000 inmates are sexually abused, the
    other 30,000 are having a ball....
    so to speak.
    Somehow I don't think that's the case.

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    Quote Quote by: Apeman81 View Post
    National Prison Rape Elimination Commission. The eight-member panel was formed under the 2003 Prison Rape Elimination Act.

    Fascinating.
    So you don't think the federal government should form a commission to look into allegations of sexual abuse in the 50 state prison system. Instead you think each state should form it's own commission and investigate it's own prisons... Do you think that state by state commission might be less efficient than one commission for all states? Do you think some states would downplay their own findings?

    So is your beef with the word rape being used or with the findings?

    As to the comment that the commission is basically making up their findings in order to justify or keep their position... fascinating. So all commissions must operate the same way right?

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    Somehow I don't think that's the case.

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    Yeah, you are probably correct.

    We could stop this rape BS by simply announcing to the inmates that if some one is caught raping someone that they'll be whipped in public. Do it right in the middle of the yard, or in the common area of the cell block. Like 25 lashes for the first offense, 50 for the second, etc.. They do this to the guy until he gets the word.

    I mean not just little patty cake swats either, but hard whips maybe delivered using a cat-o-nine tails, and layed on by one of those weight lifters you see in pictures of prisons.

    Whip the crap out of the guy, then throw on a bucket of salt! That'll probably work. If not for him it will for others who might be planning such shenanigans.


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    Quote Quote by: Deadeye View Post
    Yeah, you are probably correct.

    We could stop this rape BS by simply announcing to the inmates that if some one is caught raping someone that they'll be whipped in public. Do it right in the middle of the yard, or in the common area of the cell block. Like 25 lashes for the first offense, 50 for the second, etc.. They do this to the guy until he gets the word.

    I mean not just little patty cake swats either, but hard whips maybe delivered using a cat-o-nine tails, and layed on by one of those weight lifters you see in pictures of prisons.

    Whip the crap out of the guy, then throw on a bucket of salt! That'll probably work. If not for him it will for others who might be planning such shenanigans.

    You have been watching far too much S&M porno.


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