American Idol / Adam Lambert

[barts]

I have to take issue with the whole "first male diva" thing too. Did Freddie Mercury, George Michael and Elton John toil in vain? Do their struggles mean nothing to you people? Honestly, I give up...

They're not divas like Barbara, Celine or Whitney. Mercury, Michael and John are not virtuoso singers. Elton John can barely sing.

[Cruella]

Sorry, barts. Hated Adam's performance this evening, hated it. The right two left - I called them before the credits even rolled! - and Adam left me colder than the coldest thing you can imagine. Loved Matt this week though. And Danny.

The definition of a diva gas more to do with off-stage activites than talent, if you ask me...

[barts]

Sorry, barts. Hated Adam's performance this evening, hated it. The right two left - I called them before the credits even rolled! - and Adam left me colder than the coldest thing you can imagine. Loved Matt this week though. And Danny.

The definition of a diva gas more to do with off-stage activites than talent, if you ask me...

You're no Paula Abdul, CDCC. Paula wants Adam's children, I think. In my view, Lambert redefined "If I Can't Have You" and made every other version trite.

It's all a matter of preferences.

[Matt W]

I have to ask, what's the point of having a 'theme' night, if you're not going to stick to the theme? Utter tosh.

[Cruella]

You're no Paula Abdul, CDCC.

That is very true, and I, for one, am very thankful for that, I like being able to string my sentences together ...

I think maybe it's a Brit thing, people on A N Other forum I frequent really don't like him either. I wonder what that is?

[barts]

That is very true, and I, for one, am very thankful for that, I like being able to string my sentences together ...

I think maybe it's a Brit thing, people on A N Other forum I frequent really don't like him either. I wonder what that is?

There are times-quite a few in fact-when it seems Ms Abdul has enjoyed a few before, or during, the show.

"A Brit thing", you say. I wonder if there is something cultural in the responses of the two sides of the Atlantic. I think they're is agreement that the guy can sing, can perform, and is talented.

But, he does grate some the wrong way. Perhaps it's his lack of restraint. His androgyny. Perhaps he's too pretty. His complete domination of the competition. Perhaps his consistent originality,compared to the other contestants. Perhaps his preparation for songs; unlike most of the contestants every aspect of Lambert's performances is choreographed.

[Cruella]

unlike most of the contestants every aspect of Lambert's performances is choreographed.

I think you may have something there, there's no spontaneity, nothing natural, he's too smooth and too polished. What I normally like about AI/XFactor et al, is that you can see some pretty ordinary people on the road to becoming a performer, whereas Adam is already pretty much there ... I don't think anyone can deny his talent, but he's been pretty much steady-state since he appeared, there's been no reason to root for him, I guess.

[barts]

I think you may have something there, there's no spontaneity, nothing natural, he's too smooth and too polished.

Interesting that a consummate level of accomplishment and skill--which only comes about by decades of training, practice, and experience--is a detriment.

[Matt W]

I'd agree that's it's a detriment on a show that is meant to be about unearthing new talent.

[Sonart]

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That is very true, and I, for one, am very thankful for that, I like being able to string my sentences together .

Best tread lightly there, Crualla. I've been madly in love with Paula since 1989 and 'Straight up'.

Mercury, Michael and John are not virtuoso singers. Elton John can barely sing.

Beg your pardon. Freddie Mercury could sing. You've never heard 'Bohemian Rhapsody'?

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[Cruella]

Oh, Sonart...

[barts]

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Best tread lightly there, Crualla. I've been madly in love with Paula since 1989 and 'Straight up'.

Beg your pardon. Freddie Mercury could sing. You've never heard 'Bohemian Rhapsody'?

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Here's Freddy Mercury.