Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
Close but no cigar! I love the Grateful Dead. However, I cherish the truth of socialism.Quote by: c-sense
Anyway, common, let's keep ideology off this music-oriented thread, OK?
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-- Viscount Melbourne
Hadn’t heard Zappa in years G'pa
Great day for some Pearl Jam….
YouTube - MISHEARD LYRICS - Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter < Funny
YouTube - Jeremy - Pearl Jam
YouTube - Pearl Jam - Alive
YouTube - Pearl Jam-Daughter
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just see the film and try to be intellectually honest.They were demanding to attend performances for free...as if Jerry were their slave
If you were interested in being "intellectually honest," you would acknowledge who is doing the imposing when it comes to costs. Furthermore, you'd realize that wanting something for free doesn't instantly make someone a slave-master.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
The dead, et al, and their promoters, arranged to take a train cross-country (canada) and do shows.
Their performance is valued by those who would see it, money is an agreed upon medium of exchange, and all those involved sought exchange of it for their efforts.
The canadian hippies demanded something for nothing from many people on a false principal (or falsely applied).
If there were no reason (compensation) for those along the way involved in the delivery process (from fat cat railroad execs to people who just wanted to appear "hip" in order to get laid.... roadies who worked for food just to hear the music etc etc etc) then the opportunity for the hippies to participate would never have arisen in the first place.. yet they were acting as if the existence of the concerts for a ticket charge had "wronged" them...
This is part of the hypocrisy of liberals who use the same scenario applied to taxation... in both cases it involves a central idea that is purported to be desired by many, and the delivering of that service involves the ingenious reaping varying levels of reward, directly commensurate with their contribution or not... Okay, so Algore means well, his policies direct a lot of profits to certain interests, and because he is so "cool" we look the other way when he keeps a dozen unoccupied twelve-man hot tubs at full boil year-round on at his mansion with all the electic lights left on while he's blowing smoke jetting around the planet enlightening everyone...
Those fat cat railroad execs weren't totally "square" either... they took a lot less profit because they were relatively cool and bought into the spiritual aspect of providing the music to the undeserving hippies.
Doesnt the hippy owe the guy something who broke his back shoveling the coal the train burned in order to get the musicians out to remotest Calgary so he could hear Jerry and Buddy Guy and party out?
My point is if the two scenarios of sacrifce, contribution and delivery of a service that is valued are similar, the key difference is that one comes about by CHOICE in the absence of force, and those involved have a natural check upon them, that if any one of them gets too greedy in the process, it damns the whole project form ever coming about, in fact, they are obliged to enter into it looking to be less greedy from the outset because they are doing something that the hippies could do for themselves... play music.
Socialists take an idea that may be similarly cool, but they pool masses of money with no oversight and their efforts are intrinsically inefficent and usurpatious and tempting because if they skim, they simply demand more. If the railroad exec wanted too much, the show would never have gone off.
Last edited by commonsense; 16th February 2009 at 02:52 PM.
Stop stinkin' up the thread with this kinda crap. Take it elsewhere.
"I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything."
-- Viscount Melbourne
"I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything."
-- Viscount Melbourne
Just out of curiosity grandpa, what instrument do you play? Obviously by my avatar, I play sax. The one in the pic is pretty much my dream horn that I'm saving up for. I've always wondered how many people on this forum play instruments.
I'm sorry, but I'd agree with you if you were right.
I know how to collect dust with a guitar....one of these days I will devote a half hour a day to it.
My dad played sax and I tried to in elementary school but never applied myself... I would do well to just "get by' for a litte fun, i dont have talent.
My dad had a C Melody sax.... he was always transposing piano music for it... I dont know why he was always doing that, I thought C key sheet music was plentiful....
He played songs solo at parties like Caravan, Shadow of Your Smile, Love Potion #9, Boots Randolph and Herb Alpert stuff.
Whenever Im in central park, I always tip the horn guys to play a little of that stuff and relax to listen on a bench---its cool.
Any tips for a budding musician like me? How to get motivated? Im a deadhead/blues guy
~ Never take life seriously.~
~ Nobody ever gets out alive anyway.~
I'm calling all angels, 'cause things have to look up.
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