Without Science, Prove This Life Is Real!!

[SoylentGreen]

Who do you think you are to say what man will eventually be able to learn or prove or disprove. This is an arrogant and lame attempt to limit the thinking of others to your own level. You must think everything provable has always been proven already. You are being rediculous and narrow minded. This isn't any kind of an answer at all, just an insult. Don't bore me with your narrow view if this really all you've got.

Well, considering we did then eventually learn about reproduction then your statement is completely ridiculous. possibly pointing out that this is just another lame attempt to prove god exists is what has your ire. Next time try being straight up about your intentions instead of trying to sneak it in through a back door. But then such dishonesty can only be expected from most theists.

[Piscean]

Well, considering we did then eventually learn about reproduction then your statement is completely ridiculous. possibly pointing out that this is just another lame attempt to prove god exists is what has your ire. Next time try being straight up about your intentions instead of trying to sneak it in through a back door. But then such dishonesty can only be expected from most theists.

Are you honestly silly enough to think that I can believe I can prove to you that God exists? Wake up man I wasn't born yesterday and nobody can make you open up to any possibility you refuse to. This thread is to create a debate that isn't ridiculously boring and predictable but you are doing your best to drag it back to the only thing you are willing to see. "If it's not in a science book I don't have to believe it's real" Good for you , you don't even have to believe you exist (another point of my thread)

Also, you say we eventually did learn about reproduction. So your premise for this repetitive petty argument is that we are at the ultimate pinnacle of scientific understanding as well as understanding in general and therefore there is nothing left to be uncovered therefore I should just accept that what is known , is known and there's no more room for discovery etc. That's pathetic man. It must be interesting every time science learns something new or changes a formerly believed concept to have your reality altered since you are deliberately blind to any possibility of anything that hasn't yet been documented. I think that's the most narrow minded viewpoint I've read on here today and that's saying something. You really don't want to understand this thread (I don't believe you are as incapable as you act like you are) so rather that wasting your time regurgitating the stuff I started this thread to try to avoid, why don't you go argue back and forth with a church person. " God isn't real cuz my science book doesn't have an explanation for him" "God is real cuz my bible says so" etc. etc. blah blah

Ohh and I'm a dishonest theist. Ok, I've said nothing dishonest, NOTHING so the fact that you insult me this way tells me you are projecting. Projecting your dishonesty onto me. And the funniest part is looking at your boring narrow repetitive weak argument I'd say you are just as dishonest with yourself as you are with me. How else could you pretend not to understand that many things will continue to be revealed with time and you will continue to have to change your stance accordingly since scientists are writing your belief system and reality for you day by day.

[SoylentGreen]

Piscean;
Are you honestly silly enough to think that I can believe I can prove to you that God exists? Wake up man I wasn't born yesterday and nobody can make you open up to any possibility you refuse to.

No, I think your dishonest by not being up front about your intentions.
Of course you can not prove god exists, especially with such a pathetic attempt to degrade science.

This thread is to create a debate that isn't ridiculously boring and predictable but you are doing your best to drag it back to the only thing you are willing to see. "If it's not in a science book I don't have to believe it's real" Good for you , you don't even have to believe you exist (another point of my thread)

Except that you asked for evidence , not something as nebulous as belief.

Also, you say we eventually did learn about reproduction. So your premise for this repetitive petty argument is that we are at the ultimate pinnacle of scientific understanding as well as understanding in general and therefore there is nothing left to be uncovered therefore I should just accept that what is known , is known and there's no more room for discovery etc.

What an absurd leap of logic to make. I said we have learnt about it. That does not mean there is no more to learn.

That's pathetic man. It must be interesting every time science learns something new or changes a formerly believed concept to have your reality altered since you are deliberately blind to any possibility of anything that hasn't yet been documented.

What's really pathetic is that you have to pretend i have said something that i haven't in order to appear like your winning an argument.

I think that's the most narrow minded viewpoint I've read on here today and that's saying something. You really don't want to understand this thread (I don't believe you are as incapable as you act like you are) so rather that wasting your time regurgitating the stuff I started this thread to try to avoid, why don't you go argue back and forth with a church person. " God isn't real cuz my science book doesn't have an explanation for him" "God is real cuz my bible says so" etc. etc. blah blah

I understand this thread completely. You think your being smart when in fact your only appear desperate.

Ohh and I'm a dishonest theist. Ok, I've said nothing dishonest, NOTHING so the fact that you insult me this way tells me you are projecting. Projecting your dishonesty onto me. And the funniest part is looking at your boring narrow repetitive weak argument I'd say you are just as dishonest with yourself as you are with me. How else could you pretend not to understand that many things will continue to be revealed with time and you will continue to have to change your stance accordingly since scientists are writing your belief system and reality for you day by day.

Yes you are dishonest. First by pretending that the op was about trying to prove something without science, when in fact it's just another lame attempt to prove god.
Second by pretending to have an argument with me over things i have never said.


So lets see if you can actually be honest and this time answer my original question
What are you offering as "any other kind of evidence"?

[Piscean]

So lets see if you can actually be honest and this time answer my original question
What are you offering as "any other kind of evidence"?

Apparently you haven't ever read my posts since you don't need to, to have your mind stuck anyway but let me recap and simplify for you. The expirience of what you call life is very obviously a form of evidence. There's the simple answer you weren't willing to read in other posts on this thread so stop acting like you have some stumper of a question I'm avoiding.

[Piscean]

Yes you are dishonest. First by pretending that the op was about trying to prove something without science, when in fact it's just another lame attempt to prove god.
Second by pretending to have an argument with me over things i have never said

Are you honestly silly enough to think that I can believe I can prove to you that God exists? Wake up man I wasn't born yesterday and nobody can make you open up to any possibility you refuse to. This thread is to create a debate that isn't ridiculously boring and predictable but you are doing your best to drag it back to the only thing you are willing to see. "If it's not in a science book I don't have to believe it's real" Good for you , you don't even have to believe you exist (another point of my thread)

Does this look familiar to you? It should you already responded to it higher up on this page (supposedly) and yet you are accusing me of trying to prove God again. I'll tell you what, how bout I tell you what my thread is about and you stop shoving ignorant words in my mouth for me? That sound ok?

You've already proved your foolishness to me by calling me dishonest repeatedly when I have said nothing dishonest. You further proved it by stating with confidence that you totally understand my thread and then giving your own retarded arrogant explanation for what you "think" you know about my supposed hidden intentions. Let me say this loud enough that you may actually read it this time. I AM NOT TRYING TO PROVE GOD TO YOU, it's ok relax, this is not some scary religious trick to indoctrinate you I promise.

[Piscean]

What's really pathetic is that you have to pretend i have said something that i haven't in order to appear like your winning an argument

I'm really curious what I pretended you said?

[Piscean]

Except that you asked for evidence , not something as nebulous as belief.

Ya, and I'm still asking if we can get back on topic

What evidence can you share with me as to how you know you exist without referencing any scientific documentation? Feel free to actually try to answer it any time you feel like your done arguing with me just to argue.

[Piscean]

What an absurd leap of logic to make. I said we have learnt about it. That does not mean there is no more to learn.

Well then whatever the misunderstanding was I don't think we have any disagreement about this, sorry if I didn't understand your take on this particular piece of the puzzle correctly.

[Piscean]

So far you have responded to me 3 times without referencing the post I told you to respond to. You are completely misunderstanding everything I say either by willful ignorance or because I am not being clear.

Although you have said that I contradict myself, you have yet to describe the difference between "reproduction" and "god" and why they are very different.

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The difference is that one is currently proven scientifically and the other is not. How many ways do I have to say it before you hear it? Other than that what post did you "tell me" to answer??

After I've answered it though I'd appreciate if you'd actually try to give an answer to my thread!! You've come on here and debated or argued with me for pages and yet still have not been courageous enough to give your answer to me thread and now you have the arrogance to be DEMANDING me to answer your questions. Either address my thread with your own attempt at an answer or quit trying so sidetrack what you don't have any response to!!

[Piscean]

Address it or get out of here.

This is my thread and you for all you words contradictory and repetitive as they may be have not made even an attempt to address my thread.

So in your own arrogant, way out of line, words

"ADRESS IT OR GET OUT OF HERE"

It's getting old watching you put your foot in your mouth anyway.

[Electric Hermit]

This is my thread and you for all you words contradictory and repetitive as they may be have not made even an attempt to address my thread.

So in your own arrogant, way out of line, words

"ADRESS IT OR GET OUT OF HERE"

It's getting old watching you put your foot in your mouth anyway.

The only appropriate way to address your question is to dismiss it as a piece of silliness. Stop and think what you are asking. You are asking people to prove something that may well be impossible to prove, and certainly very difficult. And you are insisting that they do this without using any of the tools required for discovering and establishing truth.

In short, you are asking for a feat of magic. There is no such thing as magic.

[SoylentGreen]

PisceanI AM NOT TRYING TO PROVE GOD TO YOU,

My reason for making this statement is based on your statement

So with your way of thinking we never would have learned about reproduction. Now in the modern day you say the same about God. Like there is no way to prove or disprove so it's not worth any thought. Do you see a pattern here?

Now i can admit i may be wrong here but your comparison to god seems like the first of attempts to bring it into the thread. This to me seems like a back handed method of showing why a belief in god may be justified by trying to show that science has no credibility.

I'm really curious what I pretended you said?

that by my saying we have learnt about reproduction then there is nothing else left to learn. This was an assumption on your part, not anything i actually said. If your going to make assumptions then be kind enough to state they are assumptions rather than take the view that it is what i said.

What evidence can you share with me as to how you know you exist without referencing any scientific documentation? Feel free to actually try to answer it any time you feel like your done arguing with me just to argue.

I already have, your relying on metaphysics.

The expirience of what you call life is very obviously a form of evidence.

Key word there is form. The evidence of your experience is personal to you and entirely subjective, no one else has had exactly the same experiences as you have.
But you are asking in the OP "this supposed reality we are all experiencing is actually real or provable or true "
A subjective piece of evidence may be true to you but how does it become true to me.

So again i ask if you are wanting evidence that is actually real or provable or true, then what exactly do you mean by evidence.