Without Science, Prove This Life Is Real!!

[Piscean]

When you can't prove or disprove something it becomes a faulty dead end claim that deserves NO thought.

This seems like an opinion. Before the earth was proven to be round, did it deserve NO THOUGHT?

This is yet another one of those claims where people like theists thrive on.

What claim?

In the end your senors determine the image. You can perhaps stimulate those senors artificially, but the main point is that those senors are the only things you have.

So this goes back to what's written in a book though. You believe all you have is sensors because you've read it but if you'd never read that, then how would you determine what's real and what isn't?

[Piscean]

It would just mean your brain has not evolved in a certain way.

If I can sense a smell three thousand miles away, and you can't does that mean your experience of reality is fake and mine is more real?

If I can see dark matter and black holes and you can't does that mean your reality is fake?

No, it just means my brain has evolved in way where it processes and displays more information.

So for the sake of arguement, if you died, registered no brain activity, and were recesitated an hour later having had an expirience you described as more real than this reality, how would it be less real even if you didn't expirience it with your brain sensors?

[rez]

So this goes back to what's written in a book though. You believe all you have is sensors because you've read it but if you'd never read that, then how would you determine what's real and what isn't?

If I didn't have a book to tell me that then I would be a Cro-Magnon man living thousands and thousands of years ago without any past experiences (books) to judge from. I would be without the ability to investigate what an electrical charge was as well as what light was. I'd have no means of understanding how reproduction worked and how clouds formed in the sky. In fact, I wouldn't even know what a sky was.

I would be without so much information that the only thing I could use to problem solve with was my imagination.

I would think I had a soul in my body that was operating my experience. I would think that special powerful humans controlled the weather and when the sun rose and set. I would think by talking out loud to those powerful humans I could persuade them to do things in my favor to make my experience more enjoyable..

The things I would know for a fact would be that members in my tribe sometimes would "shut off" and not ever be responsive anymore. I would then use the only means of obtaining information (my imagination) and conclude those unresponsive people go on to a new experience that was controlled by super humans that ultimately controlled EVERYTHING.

[rez]

So for the sake of arguement, if you died, registered no brain activity, and were recesitated an hour later having had an expirience you described as more real than this reality, how would it be less real even if you didn't expirience it with your brain sensors?

For the sake of argument? You can't do that!

What did I say? You can't compare and contrast reality with another reality.

It would mean that there is something else that enables you to process information.

As I have said. You can process information in different ways....what does it matter if its in different ways? Each way can't be shown to be more real then the other.

[Piscean]

I would be without so much information that the only thing I could use to problem solve with was my imagination.

I would think I had a soul in my body that was operating my experience. I would think that special powerful humans controlled the weather and when the sun rose and set. I would think by talking out loud to those powerful humans I could persuade them to do things in my favor to make my experience more enjoyable..

The things I would know for a fact would be that members in my tribe sometimes would "shut off" and not ever be responsive anymore. I would then use the only means of obtaining information (my imagination) and conclude those unresponsive people go on to a new experience that was controlled by super humans that ultimately controlled EVERYTHING.

We are a little off topic now but why in the world would you imagine any of this. It seems more likely that you would percieve yourself to be a walkin talking hairy lump of flesh bound to come to an end one day and decay away to dirt like you'd seen your tribesmen do.

[Piscean]

What did I say? You can't compare and contrast reality with another reality.

It would mean that there is something else that enables you to process information.

As I have said. You can process information in different ways....what does it matter if its in different ways? Each way can't be shown to be more real then the other.

Ok so if each way can't be shown to be real than the other than bothare real accordingly. I would have to agree.

[rez]

This seems like an opinion. Before the earth was proven to be round, did it deserve NO THOUGHT?

Because this is very easy to answer. I am going to flat out say that you are not understanding anything that I say.

The earth is an object that exists in reality. We can walk on it. We can jump on it. In fact, even in the Bronze Age people thought they could build something so high that they could look down upon it. And even build it up so high they could go to where the powerful human controlled everything.

Too bad they couldn't build that building that high because if they could they would look down and see a sphere.....

[rez]

We are a little off topic now but why in the world would you imagine any of this. It seems more likely that you would percieve yourself to be a walkin talking hairy lump of flesh bound to come to an end one day and decay away to dirt like you'd seen your tribesmen do.

That is what is said of Nethandrals, but even they buried their dead and put special items a long with their remains as if they could keep them......

hmmm very odd..

[Piscean]

I would be without the ability to investigate what an electrical charge was as well as what light was. I'd have no means of understanding how reproduction worked and how clouds formed in the sky. In fact, I wouldn't even know what a sky was.

Even if you didn't understand how these things work or even notice their existance, would they be any less or more real?

[Piscean]

The earth is an object that exists in reality. We can walk on it. We can jump on it.

Ok so since you can touch it, or atleast in your perception you can, that defines it as real for you, does that mean that if you can't touch something in your perception therefore it isn't real?

[rez]

Even if you didn't understand how these things work or even notice their existance, would they be any less or more real?

let's use reproductive as the example...why? because its funny..

We all know Cro-Magnon copulated, because we are here talking right now.

Just because you are unaware of something doesn't mean its not real.

Now, before you magical thinkers go off and run with what I just said remember what I said before.

When you can't prove or disprove something it becomes a faulty dead end claim that deserves NO thought.

[Piscean]

That is what is said of Nethandrals, but even they buried their dead and put special items a long with their remains as if they could keep them......

Ok so men long ago burried objects with loved ones. Possibly just for personal sentimental reasons. Or as ASSUMED because they believed in an afterlife because of their imagination. However there are still other possibilities as to why they would believe in life beyond this life. Ovecourse any speculation in just that.