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    Should sperm donors and adoptees get to choose child's parent?

    Ok so it's legal for lesbians and single mothers to be artificailly insemenated and for gays to adopt, but do you think in light of that that sperm donors and parents who adopt out their children should get to have a choice restricting who gets to utilize their sperm and who gets to adopt their children?

    I do. sperm donors should be allowed to restrict who gets their sperm, to ensure their child lives in an atmosphere with a mother and father or in a religion he approves of, and so should a parent who adopts out a child. Imean just because you have the legal right to insemenate or adopt shouldn't mean the providers should have to allow just anybody to be their child's parent. What do you think?

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    I say neither.

    Sperm donors shouldn't have a say, they donated it. It's like saying "I' donating liver when i die, but i don't want anyone who is a muslim to get it" or "I'm donating clothes to the less fortunate but i only want the clothes to be dispersed to people in my county" If your donating it, your donating it. Deal.

    I say no to adoption because when they give up the child for adoption they basically lose all legal rights over the child. If they didn't want to run the risk of the child being adopted by someone they don't agree with, they shouldn't of put it up for adoption. Seriously, you gave the child up, you don't get to go back and dictate who gets it.

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    You're assuming no responsibilities like child support or driving your kid to soccer practice.

    The more you complain, the less I care about your problems.

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    You make a valid point about adoptees, which is why they should be required to care for their own children, but you are not including children who's parents are dead. I mean what if in their will they wanted the children to go to the father's responsible hederosexual sister and brother in law, but the sister and brother in law didn't want them or died too. Then the children go to an orphanage and the children get adopted by a lesbian couple instead. Why is it ok for people who want sperm to choose which sperm donor they pick, if it's all about not complaining why complian you if you can't get the sperm of one man but you could get the sperm of a man who is ok with his child being raised by homsexuals. Either way you are missing the child's right to a father and mother and first and foremost to their biological parents. There are also many fathers losing their children to adoption against their will because of lesbian feminist (who have gone overboard to matriarchy) the least the courts could do is grant the child a normal man-woman relationship to the child after stealing another man's child.

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    Quote Quote by: ironeagle View Post
    You make a valid point about adoptees, which is why they should be required to care for their own children, but you are not including children who's parents are dead. I mean what if in their will they wanted the children to go to the father's responsible hederosexual sister and brother in law, but the sister and brother in law didn't want them or died too. Then the children go to an orphanage and the children get adopted by a lesbian couple instead. Why is it ok for people who want sperm to choose which sperm donor they pick, if it's all about not complaining why complian you if you can't get the sperm of one man but you could get the sperm of a man who is ok with his child being raised by homsexuals. Either way you are missing the child's right to a father and mother and first and foremost to their biological parents. There are also many fathers losing their children to adoption against their will because of lesbian feminist (who have gone overboard to matriarchy) the least the courts could do is grant the child a normal man-woman relationship to the child after stealing another man's child.
    If they die, then yes, the children will likely go to any living family members. As for the choosing the sperm they want, it's probably a matter of people wanting certain traits for their children. As for fathers or mothers who lose their children, it's because they are judged to be unfit to raise the child. This could be because of abuse, neglect, insanity, etc.

    Also, until there is actual evidence to say that homosexual couples cannot raise a child as well as a heterosexual couple, you have no right to deny homosexual couples the ability to adopt.

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    This whole thread is ridiculous! If a person wants to have their child raised under specific beliefs or certain household values then they should raise their child themselves.

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    As for orphans, if they're young they won't be strongly biased against gays and won't care. If they're older, they'll be lucky to get adopted parents at all.

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    Quote Quote by: ironeagle View Post
    I do. sperm donors should be allowed to restrict who gets their sperm, to ensure their child lives in an atmosphere with a mother and father or in a religion he approves of, and so should a parent who adopts out a child. Imean just because you have the legal right to insemenate or adopt shouldn't mean the providers should have to allow just anybody to be their child's parent. What do you think?
    If sperm donors don't want a certain person to use their sperm, then don't donate it. It's not rocket science.


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    double post.


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    I don't think parents who are putting their child up for adoption have a right to be picky.

    If they want control over their child, then keep it.

    If they don't want responsibility for their child, then give it up for adoption.

    As for sperm donors, I think ??! covered it


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    Quote Quote by: Tycoon View Post
    This whole thread is ridiculous! If a person wants to have their child raised under specific beliefs or certain household values then they should raise their child themselves.
    I find this offensive. Why should parents have an absolute right to decide how to indoctrinate "their" children?

    TC


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    Quote Quote by: ThoughtCriminal View Post
    I find this offensive. Why should parents have an absolute right to decide how to indoctrinate "their" children?

    TC
    Wow, I was thinking the exact same thing.


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