The lost art of being a House Wife.

[Mia]

How will the mother of your child do that if she's not your wife and you won't support her to do so?

[Chancellor]

Quote the part of how a husband is supposed to be and show me one of those. My brother is a fundamentalist Christian, and I pointed out to him that a man, while being the decision maker, is supposed to so so with HER best interests at heart. So really, it's HER wishes that take precedence.

It's funny how men love to quote how a woman should be but don't want to be how a man should.

But King Solomon (whose writing I was quoting) didn't say anything in that passage about how men are supposed to be toward their wives. Since that is entirely irrelevant to the subject of this thread, it was really stupid of you to demand that I quote things about how the husbands are supposed to be. However, I'll throw you a bone and quote the Apostle Paul where he said that husbands are to "love their wives as Christ loved the Church."

Stick to the topic of conversation.

[Suburbanite]

How will the mother of your child do that if she's not your wife and you won't support her to do so?

It isn't that I wouldn't support a woman taking care of my child when the kid is a new born. It is just that supporting women make them less self reliant. It isn't impossible to raise a kid without financial support. And obviously I'd pay for my own child. I just dont get where your questions are going, are you about to unravel my whole argument by showing me it is impossible for a woman to tough it out, work and raise a family? Cause it isn't.

[SoylentGreen]

[B]Maryjane[/B
]No, Let's go back to the dark ages where women are property and men are not to be questioned.

Speaking of which I did notice that you left that quality in a housewife off your resume, Please revise and update and I may just consider it. Oh and have your father ( as it should be the man of the house who decides your fate) give a detailed account of what kind of dowry he will be offering and it will have to be a substantial one as I understand you are , well hard to say it politely , but I believe the term is used goods.

[Technosoul]

But King Solomon (whose writing I was quoting) didn't say anything in that passage about how men are supposed to be toward their wives. Since that is entirely irrelevant to the subject of this thread, it was really stupid of you to demand that I quote things about how the husbands are supposed to be. However, I'll throw you a bone and quote the Apostle Paul where he said that husbands are to "love their wives as Christ loved the Church."

Stick to the topic of conversation.

How did Jesus Christ love the Church when the Christian Church did not exsist until after he departed? Paul needs to do his historical research before he makes up stuff like that.

However in many cases the Church is the "other woman" and marrages have broken up because a man prefered the love of the Church over the love of his wife.

[Chancellor]

How did Jesus Christ love the Church when the Christian Church did not exsist until after he departed? Paul needs to do his historical research before he makes up stuff like that.

Look it up!:rolleyes: The answer is in the rest of the statement, "and gave Himself for it."

However in many cases the Church is the "other woman" and marrages have broken up because a man prefered the love of the Church over the love of his wife.

This is irrelevant, though Jesus did say that those who loved fathers, mothers, etc. more than they loved Him were not worthy of Him.

[Rinoa]

Excluding women from the workforce completely wastes our other talents (and not all women are cut out to be housewives/mothers).

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about the women who choose to stay home? If it's the couples choice to have her stay home and be a housewife, is that a bad thing?

Don't go pulling that shit. First off, if it's in a married relationship, it isn't YOUR MONEY, it's BOTH OF YOUR MONEY. Otherwise, they have no obligation to be monogamous to you, nor you to them.

I agree that the money is shared, however there is more than money binding man and wife. The relationship isn't just financial.

The obvious negativity in your tone aside, you miss the point of marriage. The point, and one of the main benefits, is to share your life with someone you love, so that you help each other. Pooling resources is a part of that. It's not an exchange, it's a relationship.

Agreed.

So, if you get married, and "you" buy a house with "your" money, are you going to charge her rent? Because if so, I'd LOVE to be there for that conversation.

I know a guy that actually invoices his stay at home wife for her half of the bills. I'm just waiting to hear about that divorce.

Since that is entirely irrelevant to the subject of this thread, it was really stupid of you to demand that I quote things about how the husbands are supposed to be.

It completely applies to the thread. The class is women only, and part of analysing the class and its effect on todays society would include wondering why it is directed strictly at women. If that is the womans part asking how the part of the man differs would help to figure out why it is a womans class.

However, I'll throw you a bone and quote the Apostle Paul where he said that husbands are to "love their wives as Christ loved the Church."

Wait, so she has to be all the things Solomon stated, and all he has to do is be grateful? How is that equal? Really not quite the list of qualifiers you expect the woman to live up to.
My favorite saying I've ever heard in the mormon church was "Be the type of person you want to marry." In other words, if that's the type of woman he wants, he has to be that kindof man.

Stick to the topic of conversation.

They were on topic. They were critiquing the application of the class in todays society with consideration to womens lib.

[Mia]

But King Solomon (whose writing I was quoting) didn't say anything in that passage about how men are supposed to be toward their wives. Since that is entirely irrelevant to the subject of this thread, it was really stupid of you to demand that I quote things about how the husbands are supposed to be. However, I'll throw you a bone and quote the Apostle Paul where he said that husbands are to "love their wives as Christ loved the Church."

Stick to the topic of conversation.

I'm saying when men start acting like they are supposed to, I'll take into consideration what the bible says I'm supposed to be like for them.

That's on topic, so keep your cool over there, and refrain from barking any orders at me. I don't take them well

[Mia]

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about the women who choose to stay home? If it's the couples choice to have her stay home and be a housewife, is that a bad thing?

Not at all. That is an individual choice to be made by each family, imo. My step-mother is a housewife with no children left at home to care for, but grandchildren and the house and my father keep her plenty busy. She seems to work as many hours, if not more, than he does.

[Dan_77]

I'm saying when men start acting like they are supposed to, I'll take into consideration what the bible says I'm supposed to be like for them.

I think you will find there are plenty of men who would be willing to be the head of the household in the traditional nuclear sense.

[Mia]

I think you will find there are plenty of men who would be willing to be the head of the household in the traditional nuclear sense.

I'm sure there are, but one that will treat me as he should, equal to how I'm to treat him according to the Bible and this course? Now, that one's a little tougher......

[tinybear]

I don't think I'll join. It sounds like hard work.