The lost art of being a House Wife.

[Mia]

Sub, do you plan on having kids? Are they going to go to day-care, and will you and your wife pay others to do all the menial things?

[Cephus]

Sub, do you plan on having kids?

I certainly hope not, we've got enough fucked up kids in this world without Sub adding more.

[Suburbanite]

I may have children. I wont have a wife, though.
What do you mean by day care, do you mean going to school? I don't know. I'd like to probably take as much of a l hands-on roll as my time allows.

[Suburbanite]

I certainly hope not, we've got enough fucked up kids in this world without Sub adding more.

Why would my kid be fucked up? And what defines a kid as "fucked up" to you?

[Dan_77]

I may have children. I wont have a wife, though.

That is ridiculous. The stability that comes to children through a solid marriage between loving parents is a major factor in their success in life.

What do you mean by day care, do you mean going to school? I don't know. I'd like to probably take as much of a l hands-on roll as my time allows.

Uhh... And what about from ages 0-5? You know, before school?

Now as far as the money in a marriage is concerned, I'm sorry, but there is no one way to look at it. In a marriage with me, should a woman ever make that mistake, they will not have access to any of my money, love aside. I don't PAY for monogamy! This isn't the 1600s. I don't need to financially support my wife. And look, you're talking to a really successful guy here, and it isn't because I'm cheap. To me if a woman wants a marriage for the financial security in exchange for exclusive rights to her body she is a one time prostitute and she might as well move on.

The obvious negativity in your tone aside, you miss the point of marriage. The point, and one of the main benefits, is to share your life with someone you love, so that you help each other. Pooling resources is a part of that. It's not an exchange, it's a relationship.

So, if you get married, and "you" buy a house with "your" money, are you going to charge her rent? Because if so, I'd LOVE to be there for that conversation.

[Mia]

I may have children. I wont have a wife, though.
What do you mean by day care, do you mean going to school? I don't know. I'd like to probably take as much of a l hands-on roll as my time allows.

I mean if taking care of the baby is too menial for its mother or father to do, then it must go to day-care (professional baby-sitting) while the mother and father work, until he/she is old enough for school.

[Maryjane]

There is an art to being a housewife? Who knew? So someone in the business world would consider me for a job because I have a degree in homemaking, not from a class, but from actual on the job training?

Or am I supposed to add that piece of paper to my resume when I go looking for a husband? Will I have to sign a pre-nup that says if I can't perform my "wifely duties" he can divorce me?

I mean I'm one hell of a wife! I can cook just about anything, organize a yard sale, change the propane tank and clean the grill, clean the house, wash a window, grow grass, dig a hole, plant a tree, trim a bush, paint the house inside and out, stain the deck, use a power washer, row a boat, gut a fish, carve a turkey, bake from scratch, sew, wash, dry, and fold laundry, paint a picture, write a story, breast feed, burp a baby, read bed time stories, bathe the kids, change a diaper, teach a kid to ride a bike, instill manners, sing a lullaby, do all the shopping, balance the check book, pay the bills, plan a funeral, decorate, cater a party, uncork a bottle of wine, pour a beer, mix a cocktail, roll a joint, shuck an oyster, take out the trash, help with homework, chaffer the kids, manage a team, run the penalty box, change the oil, drive a stick shift, buy a car (new and used), refinance the house, negotiate a contract, read a map, put up a tent, start a fire, email, scan and fax, plan, design and decorate a haunted house and I didn't need to spend five grand on a 23 hour class to teach me all that.

I won't even bother to go into my abilities as a demure sex kitten or a whore in the bedroom. They don't bother to teach that in the classroom do they? Don't they know part of keeping your husband happy is entertaining him between the sheets?

All I want to know is...So where's the class that teaches a husband how to change a damn roll of toilet paper?

All kidding aside, WTF is it with Christians? Am I the only one that sees this as another attempt to blame women (once again) for the downfall of society? 50% of couples get divorced today. Lord knows it's not the homosexuals divorcing. Could it be the heterosexual women that don't know their place in society that cause all the trouble? :rolleyes:

Why not a coed class for both the husband and the wife? How about teaching the lost art of communication? No, Let's go back to the dark ages where women are property and men are not to be questioned. Let's have courses for women that teach them to be subservient so when their husband dies the only skills she has is kissing someone's ass for a living in order to survive. Oh, that's right....she's going to be fine because when she dies, They will be together again!

I can't wait to see the shit she gets blamed for in heaven! :)

[Suburbanite]

That is ridiculous. The stability that comes to children through a solid marriage between loving parents is a major factor in their success in life.

While parents who stay involved in their children's lives do in fact make for better parents statistically, this is not a necessary truism. And to involve a mother in the child's life does not mean you have to live with her or love her.

Uhh... And what about from ages 0-5? You know, before school?

What are you asking about them? Will I have the mother take care of the kids? Yes, of course, as will I. I don't need day care because I'm self employed. But this is how I chose to live my life.

The obvious negativity in your tone aside, you miss the point of marriage. The point, and one of the main benefits, is to share your life with someone you love, so that you help each other. Pooling resources is a part of that. It's not an exchange, it's a relationship.

I'm not negative, I just don't ascribe to your world view, just as many other perspectives on relationships around the world don't.

So, if you get married, and "you" buy a house with "your" money, are you going to charge her rent? Because if so, I'd LOVE to be there for that conversation.

Not getting married, no problem!

[Suburbanite]

I mean if taking care of the baby is too menial for its mother or father to do, then it must go to day-care (professional baby-sitting) while the mother and father work, until he/she is old enough for school.

Yes, and?

[Mia]

The point is you said caring for children is 'menial' work. So will you farm it out? You think that's better for the kid? (and cheaper? you better check out day-care prices).

[Jack]

I mean I'm one hell of a wife!...

I'm giving up on drama queens. Let's get married!

[Suburbanite]

The point is you said caring for children is 'menial' work. So will you farm it out? You think that's better for the kid? (and cheaper? you better check out day-care prices).

I'm saying it is menial to imply that it alone does not require 24/7 devotion. Not that it shouldn't be done.