It is relevant if it prejudiced you against all evidence of God. Let's find out if it is about the evidence or if it is about your will. If there were positive proof of God would you serve Him?
It is relevant if it prejudiced you against all evidence of God. Let's find out if it is about the evidence or if it is about your will. If there were positive proof of God would you serve Him?
No, I soon later spent two years of my life (and for the rest of my life) reading, thinking, considering, and learning and thus I am an atheist. There was no prejudice.Quote by: texasdave
This was supposed to be a debate on the existence of God. You still leave so many of my questions and arguments unanswered.
But whatever.. No Dave, your god is sick. I would not serve him if he is anything like Christianity describes.
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Then what point is there in proving to you He exists? The problem is not the evidence but your will. With your will being set against God you will not see ANY level of evidence that will convince you short of meeting with God face-to-face. And even then you will be rebellious. So, this debate is pointless. I can go on and on and on with literally dozens of fine tuning arguments in cosmology, astronomy,organic chemistry, and biology but you will just deny the connection. I can show you the impossibility that life formed by chance through mathmatics but you will just side with the impossible odds because until you change your will you will not see the evidence regardless of how convincing it is. As the scripture says, " There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. " Now, if you want to address your will that is a different matter. Care to go into that? It means you will have to open up a bit more.
I can still be proven to that he exists. Just because I think he's sick doesn't change that, Dave.
And what evidence? You've shown me no evidence and consistently ignore my arguments. You're making even more certain that there is no god when you can't even defend it. So don't get upset when I'm not playing along with your nonsense. This is a debate, and now all you're doing is whining that I'm not accepting your "arguments". Look at my responses and ADDRESS them, then maybe you'll know why. Look at my arguments you've ignored and ADDRESS them, then maybe you'll know why. You haven't shown me a lick of evidence, yet whine when I don't adhere to your nonsense, it's insane. If this is all you have.. you should seriously question why you're a Christian.. 'cause it's certainly based on nothing but memes and faith.
It didn't form by chance. Why do Christians think that? It's so absurd.
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I'm saying it did NOT form by chance. That it was formed intentionally. Macroevolution says that it formed by chance. Mathmatically that is not possible. What other questions have I not answered? Please ask one.
First off, it'd help if you actually support this argument. That's all you're going to tell me? It's mathmatically [sic] impossible?
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Also, you need to say more than "There are 6.5 billion arguments" for perfect design or whatever you were trying to argue for.
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Also, all of this
| |Christianity is unjust| |
Hell is an infinite punishment.
What finite sin deserves infinite punishment?
| |Issue of suffering| |
Why does God choose to put us on Earth if we could all just live in Heaven, which, according to the premise, is a much better place than Earth?
If you believe in a Hell with suffering.
Why does God choose to test us on Earth when we could all just live in Heaven, which, according to the premise, is a much better place than Earth or Hell?
Is God fulfilling a need? If so, why does a god need to fulfill a need?
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O.K. hell being an infinite punishment I have already addressed. Since rejection of God is infinite and God created us in His image ( that is we have infinite spirits) then sin is not necessarily finite. Acts of sin are active rejections of God. So is refusing His mercy through Christ. That is His offer of reconcilliation. If you reject all opportunities to reconcile then you do not want it. This is an infinite sin by your infinite spirit. You have to go SOMEWHERE for infinity and so you naturally go to a place that is infinitely separated from God and ALL HIS PROVISIONS. Provisions like joy, hope, food, light, comfort, security, companionship. All those things are of God and are absent from hell.
Is the action infinite or is the being that is targeted infinite?
No one is fundamentally hurt by not accepting something they can't find or believe is false. Yet, the action of doing so is infinite because..? Because God values his own emotions, that rival a teenage girl, over the fair judgment and character of his creations and sees it fit that if one of his creations is too faulty to find him.. they deserve infinite punishment. Right?
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Suffering; Suffering is a natural consequence of sin and being some degree of separation from God. God allows the consequence of suffering as a means of conditioning your character and to give you a true perspective ( a TASTE if you will) of what separation from God means. Call it a milder form of hell to give you a correction. Like a Father would do if He were concerned about your long term ( like eternal) welfare.
The action is infinite. Complete rejection of Him is infinite. God does not allow anyone to go to hell that will eventually accept Him. The judgement is final because the rejection is final. Someone would be fundamentally hurt by a rebellious spirit being in heaven. Satan being the example.
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